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No, Ive looked this up, this is a skin thing. I have aching deep in backs of heels & it starts immediately & even just walking across it once, & only in here. If all my other carpets, including main room with no underlay at all, even lino floors & bare wood stairs, I get no aching in... & it starts only in conjunction with the new carpet: it's the new carpet. But of course I'll be challenged, challenged until the cows come home. zoot can't possibly be right, the fitter's done exactly what he should have/ not his fault, its just your physiology. No. It's just sh*t, unsupportive, junk underlay. It's only a question of how I can proceed to rectify the situation. I haven't a clue, Ive only in my life had 2 new carpets fitted.. I didn't know this underlay problem even existed.

Peter, its absolutely the carpet & not my feet. Ive worked for a year in this room, same shoes (I only have 2 pairs), hard caberfloor.. no aching. I have the same fitters carpets in adjacent room, different underlay, never once aching. Ive never -once- had aching feet in the whole 4 yrs Ive been here, even after long hard graft walks. If I feel instant relief when I step onto the next bedroom's carpet, from this carpet, & the aching has only started with this new carpet.. I mean there's no more proof needed. Its unnoquivocal. I'm absolutely certain its the underlay's poor density I can literally see proof of (bc the carpet indents & stays indented, & carpet sort of looks & feels 'loose' ontop of it) and I can feel proof of: Ii feels like Im standing on squashed materials mm's above on a hard floor, so I feel the floor clearly just with squished 'padded' areas 'up' around where I'm standing, IE my two steps having no support, not, like my adjacent room (chipboard floor too) feeling correctly like you're standing on a layer of something supportive/ you are totally unaware of the floor below. What you describe might well be what I have as a result, & its actually pain in the back part of my heels.. but the cause is not in any doubt.

Seriously Onoff- do you know what I should do? If I wake up & heels painful, its a problem & I dont know how to proceed.

This is now a real problem. Just 5 mins walking on & my heels are throbbing, feet Really aching bad. Disaster. Iknow exactly what it is(the indents being left /ive never see this before on a carpet sort of telling me) its simply the underlay not giving proper support at all (even if a bit thicker) so each steps weight compresses it so your effectively walking on the hard floor below, leaving a trail of steps, just a thin bit of 7mm carpet onto hard floor. Im taken for aride, again. Its not something thats obvious at 1st, as youre not used to it, or know whats causing feet to ache, & the adjacent bedroom is fine.. so assumed hed put same under stuff down in here. ive only just over wknd got everything in, after A year doing these rooms. Now its all gotta be taken out, As I cannot possibly put up with this. Any ideas on how i approach the fitter about this? Assuming hell refuse to do any thing about it, do you think an insurance claim is feasable? £400damn quid. Grrr..

Who knows, I can ask him.. but I bet Ive been given the crap stuff. I know nothing about such materials, googling all I can it seems the only info is the thinner the poorer quality.

Has anyone ever known of, or experienced feet 'ache' from spongey underlay-? I kniow this might seem a weird one, but carpet just in I asked about the underlay on day fitting (knowing its important) & told 'got you some good stuff'. Its definitely slightly higher & spongier underlay than adjacent bedroom he did 3 yrs ago, but the carpet indents very noticeably (IE if you stand for a while in one spot, or kneel).. & I can't help feeling its actually making my feet ache. A bit like a soft bed makes my back ache. It might just be my mind playing tricks. It does feel a bit odd tho like Ive got noticeable padding under the carpet, which always 'registers' rather than an underlay which you don't notice after a while.

Thanks MJN. Yes I sprawled @MJNewton once but I do have my big f-o french doors so couldn't writhe about. & the new smell.. omg is ace. why this can't be bottled & sold or summink burnt & it gives off its sheepy whiff, is utterly beyond me. My air pump like sooo sucks. it wakes me up spews out water doesn't get me warm & I shall proclaim its wretchedness.

Well only cos of you guys' input.. hugely satisfying. Looks browner here in pics, as I chose, but worryingly beige In reality I think With all the light pouring in this room. Turns out I didnt need my stupid 'alone' piece of skirting so well he did this old wall, i rather like too, but hey ho. A break now faff with me curtains etc, get moved in.. then onto the flamin door! Final job up here. Gotta be a good fit too as i can hear the dreaded CH compressor 3 rooms away even in here. Thanks zH

Yes ill certainly have a word in mine.. the only time i went in 4 yrs ago when i moved here i spoke to a chap with a nazi tattoo mind you. Im a bit scared. Earlier that day nearby i 'spoke ' to a weird one eyed woman, who spoke no english, with a dog with different coloured eyes.. called Bob. Thats all she said pointing at dog, Bob. With our pine forest steep valleys.. I thought id just landed in a twin peaks episode. Btw i like your green, in your J. Thx zh

Yes but I'll be Biden's age. Btw behind the picture, in the stairwell & above yr head as you come up the stairs, is my dreaded noisy boiler box CH thing (this being the spare bed's cupboard).. you can't get more central in the house: kitchen & bathroom are onwards from it, both gnd floor.

Thanks Onoff- I do have a sawmill just over the hill (just like out of twin peaks.. its ace) but all fir as far as I know. But I will ask. What's a Bil?

All noble fir & larch that was. Even if I came across a chainsawed oak trunk there's no way I could whittle it down. I thought I saw a hardwood reddish plank in jewsons.. but if it was hardwood I bet Id have to buy a 5m length. Any more practical ideas?

@Onoff and/ or @joe90 my mdf windowboard sill is not doing alot for me, its also too low really the window starts a good 4" above it. and too shallow. I was wondering if you might know of any hardwood sources I could shape & fix ontop? is this something that's found in the usual sheds.. or would it be a specialist place to get a 1m plank from I wonder. A nice piece of oak.. would offset the 'zoots white lab' samey samey goings on. I tried to get a wickes grey for the walls but they wouldnt post to me. odd. I got some wickes olive paint posted to me a few weeks before.

I always slam every door out of bone idleness, I rather like it.!

Ok thanks Onoff- will revert back to this.. cross this bridge in time/ no rush on the door immediately. Understand the idea/ good one. You can see the door I'm gonna copy in background of pic, circa 1985 or so. Basic, but do have an authentic cottage feel. I'm just going to do this by skin of me teeth/ overcoat should be dry @ exact time carpet man comes. fingers x'd its dry.

@Onoff nice barn door.. so many screws.. so yes this sort of thing, but good thing is i only have to match the decently diy'd standard of the other two nearby, and copy them, and get same t&g boards, even the same cheapo latches to match still fs in Charlie's.

I think it does! I need not a little help.. a flippin heap joe/ thanks to you guys. Looks like each side's a banana but is straight, bar a few mm's top to btm: even putting a square brace on both top cnrs, I still couldn't get sides plumb, so had to undo braces. So Ive got abot 3mm gap top L to top R across the width too. Far from perfect. But I dont think I could ever get better for a 1st go.

Good ok thats a plan.. tho i do have the adjacent bedroom doors to copy, made from same stock in town, that being t & g belt n braces doors or w'evaaa theyre called.. but get your point, makes sense to do this bit later esp as im pushed fo time. thanks chaps.

Ok understood- Ive done the backside quadrant (a bit of a mess!) & frontside architrave/ found exactly same stuff as my other doors: I ve put it all 1/4" set-in allround for hinges.. if its not enough I'll have to chip away at it a bit.. bit needed all the lining width as it was only 27mm as it was.. so 21mm to fix arch.. to. Ok Im seriously up against it timewise- these 4 bits plus last of skirting took the whole day. My other doors have the hinges tucked in between the arch.. and the edge of the door lining/ so I cant do this now, but, I presume (hope to goodness) I can add hinges onto what Ive done, later-? Right- last bit to consider is the easy-to-fit plant-on 3 bits 8am/ then blitz painting all day (I'll only be able to do 1x overcoat, not enough time to do 2x now) before carpet man monday.. hope to fk its dry. terrible night last night.. CH system woke me 3x during night so I'm majorly up against it now. Could you run me thru where to put these plant-on bits.. do I have a choice where, or are theu dependent on something (door thickness-? what lactch/ catch thing I plan to use-? anything else-?). thx zH

So do you mean set back the architrave on -just- the hinge side? Onoff's is set back on the non-hinge side in the pic/ I assume the door is hung. Or is the idea to just set it back equally all around, to make it look symettrical-? Ive got my architrave stuff, so putting on this a'noon. Also got that frame fix screw in.. joe you were right/ just needed a far bigger philips bit in my driver: pg1 mistake.

Hi Onoff- no table saw this is the problem. I just need, ideally, to find the front section like your eg here (the back section I'll do joe's idea/ simply 25x25 quadrant moulding- great). So is the stuff you've put on here, almost exactly what I need, called anything? is it cut down 'architrave' or is it 'door lining moulding'? or another name? does it come in usual widths lke yours looks to be ~ like most doors similarly so.. or did you have to run this thru a table saw & maybe cut off 1" from its whole width?

What architrave to put on front.. my other doors have a very plain/ simple ramp type shallow slope, with a flat top. simple as. Be nice to follow suit. I guess I just pick one out once Im there.. But is there any specific word/ term for this fronside addition I can look online 1st? I thought arch.. was ceiling detail. Seen your quadrant moulding stuff @joe90 thanks/ ok 25x25mm stuff going on the back side then.

its thursday!! and relax... thank fk for that.

This has taken a whole day joe.. it takes me 10x the time it would you. is it friday or thursday? quarter moulding..