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Hi Onoff.. trying that right now to myself.

Peter- got my phone sorted, new sim/ great. And @daiking the ipad seems working fine in 'private' mode too, even weak signal from hub (old thick wall behind me in new top room prolly). Can someone help tho similar thing: I've recorded 2mins of video (just my rotten ASHP motor noise last night) I need to send via email, but try 'attatch' but pop-up says "How do you want to share this file?" then "This file is too large.. try sharing with Onedrive". So I cant attatch it.

Ive done the whole house with it.. the render on the extention for eg, is this area different-?

Is this sort of ready mix with lime not available in jewsons or usual builders merchants then as a rule?

Understood joe. What I'm picking off is a few mm's of surface render, it seems, on the face of all the slate: should i replicate this (I think the whole wall is sort of covered with it over all exterior tbh) 'face' addition? Or do I just point between the stone, & just masonry paint directly onto the visible slate to make it all white again-? I'm not going specialist lime-paint stuff/ too expensive, & rest Ive done with dulux masonry paint & looks very good too.

@Onoff fab info thanks- never knew such stuff existed, so perfect eg of how useful this site is/ honestly dunno what I'd have done without it. 2x 20kg tubs is ideal, & I'll go get it.. post will be a flippin mare! As to the job, my blunt rounded-off-tip trowel I bet is the ticket, small pointy one to force into deep bits. Worked on a site age 18 renovating old barn so actually have some experience of repointing. Thanks, zH

Hi joe, ok good that's a plan. Right, doing job is no problem. But the materials ive no clue about. Ok, once Ive picked the rest away it'll be double maybe x3 area to repoint you see in photo.. so still a fairly small job, I mean 2 buckets of mortar max. So Buying a bag of cement, Plus a (whatever the minimum ammount of sand) bag or whatever it comes in of sand, then again a bag ( or whatever the min ammount) of lime..... & Im using about a fifth, & binning the rest. Surely not right. I do see mortar tubs of 5l in my homebase place. But never seen lime for sale, even in jewsons ive no clue what it even looks like or how big an ammount it comes in. This 5l tub is far too small Tho & not cost effective to buy say 6 tubs, then add lime stuff. So ideally I need somehow to buy a midway ammount, between 5l tubs and a full 25kg bag. Surely many non-builder folks have similar size jobs.. so is there some mortar product available, maybe with this lime stuff in?

Hi over here- old welsh c1830 stone cottage. Porch to redo just needs lino.. & wall attn. So I pick away at hollow top area here, & it goes on, & on. Ive stopped for advice/ fairly deep in places. There's some damp within the 2ft walls generally, I won't be able to tackle without huge logistics/ & can live with ok, I guess the old grey crumbly mortar I'm easily picking away is so due to moisture rising within the wall. Pick this out, & I'm down to the 1830 "mortar"..IE just soil between the slate stones. Advice please: as its inside porch, no rain on here. Is it just effectively a case of "re-pointing"? Thanks, zoot

Well credit is due to you & Onoff of course joe, & PeterW- huge help. The wall behind bed's turned out great: alot of time on plastering/ filling, & time will tell if it introduces excessive cold.. but gives me a nice direct link back to the main house, & main room downstairs/ similar walls inside this, & some character: if it was lined, it'd be a 4 straight walled new cube. I think its just gotta stay as is.

Yes yes ok- but 1st time Ive done alot of this, never had sore feet (do again now- so defo the room, cant be ceiling, gotta be floor > carpet like t'other > so > it can only be the cumulus bollocus).. & if if fitter said no can do, Id be looking at £250 min: & that aint no molehill on what I earn. Thanks, turned out a fantastic room/ space, views. be nice if it was warm mind.. CH got new error code/ heating not working. ffs.

Sensible suggestion dangit6.. Never know I might sort of get used to it, like annoying shoes. Cheers Pics of finished room anyway ( bar door to make, but can wait)

Hi- that's an idea.. actually did cross my mind too, 2x 9mm. Its very odd this tho: I could swear today my feet aren't aching 1/2 as much.. it can't all be in the mind though, pain was real/ poked both heels & 'ow' etc. My fitter will replace for just cost of underlay though, £60 ish, big relief & kudos to him. I think £120 with your idea, a bit of a stretch maybe. thanks- zH

Rich step, 9mm. Just talked to my fitter who told me- never known anyone to have feet ache problems, but very accomodating & a good possible result: he said it is feasable to replace the underlay! thank goodness. and with the rich tea stuff as well.. so just waiting on a quote, but has to be done £whatever so fingers x'd. Dammit I should have asked for same as before, instead of just presuming he'd be using it.. didn't occur to me. thanks- zoot

Oh terrific.. thanks alot. You're a charmer eh? No, its established the issue isn't my feet, or the carpet.. but the underlay, no debate if stepping into adjacent room the ache goes away feet immediately feel supported, & both carpets similar price and thickness roughly speaking. I just need this underlay, in here. Simple as.. but at what cost, & is it even possible now without redoing whole shebang.

It must be just me then, a bad match. No I dont suffer at all, I can happily do socks on hard floor or stairs/ no issues at all. Its not the quality of the underlay, or expense.. its just the suitability & importantly (if maybe a bit heavier- Im 14st) support aspect, density I'm certain this boils down to. The cumulus is surely worded so, bc its light n fluffy, that doesn't exactly say 'supportitve' to me. Thanks- zH

Its £18 I think. Should've gone better, & its horribly beige too (looked browner in the shop).. no-one to blame but me for this. Actually I can't blame fitter now I know he's put in what he said, or even the Mfr, it just seems a bad (& costly) match my feet + this product. and I aint changing me feet.

MJN no come on. I'm getting it replaced that's a given, I'm not considering body-modification to suit it(!!). My fitter is calling me soon, so that's 1st step/ so I can ask him about things- a quote I think's the bottom line. urgh. Much appreciate the ideas tho chaps, even if I'm not quite on board with them!

Ok thanks it does seem to be this, maybe.. so why, if its industry std and well regarded, heck even deemed luxury perhaps.. is it causing me pain then? Rhetorical q. Do i take it up with mfr not fitter? Does fitter make choice dependent on anything? Its just advice i was after. I didnt really need or warrant a heap of angry replies tbh.

So you're saying my aching feet are no problem? If the fotter says 'i got you some really good underlay' and by your accounts hes just put commonest stuff down.. that doesn't tally to me. if its causing actual pain in my heels.. its a problem whether its expensive stuff or cheap stuff, & its certainly not me thats the problem as is being suggested. So if this produces the 'body' underneath the carpet, the majority of which takes weight, its this which is the cause of the problem. it may be a combination of thin carpet plus this stuff being a poor match for it tho.. In which case the fitters choice of underlay isnt right, if me the customer chooses this particular carpet.

Anyone id this stuff? Squishing it between fingers.. its just as i thought, stupidly light foam. squishes instantly from 14 mm or so right down to 3 mm with any weight on.. no support for feet whatsoever. Other Decent stuff in next room 12mm or so.. multi coloured, alot firmer, you cant squish it much more than half, rubbery not light foam like this. You can see by the staples how light it is.

Me clean them off? I didnt fit the floor, & its a fitter to prep the surface so his materials wont wear.. anyway what I'm saying is even being cleaned off by builders/ normally so (I was working in here & its same as one I did below, nothing saying 'big f-o glue excess' lines) bc the damn underlay is evidently so thin, once squished down you feel them even the odd caber panel a few mm's high. You shouldn't be able to!! I just feel its again just argue at me for the sake of it/ anything anything but agree. Its the simplest answer/ clear as day its the underlay. It wasn't even in consideration for being disagreed with either. I agree, its not a health forum yes!! I just need help/ advice on how to deal with the fitter, or even how to make an insurance claim.. I don't know. Can an underlay be changed? I dont know. They're fairly normal Q's on a trademan's job I'm not happy with, on a build forum. That's all. thx zoot.

A specialists' opinion on someone else though, if copied/ pasted-? a specialist wouldn't have had time enough to voice an opinion on my specific issue. So this is an assumption. Sorry but its wrong: I didnt feel any aching with the adjacent carpet when new or now & I feel nothing of the floor below it. If I feel aching with this, coinciding with the new materials.. its the new materials (especially if it feels thick -yet- so un-dense & unsupportive I can feel the D4 glue line joins through my shoes underfoot!). Saying anything else just feels like arguing at me for the sake of it. The underlay is not properly supportive & needs replacing. Its just a Q of how.

That's a good suggestion joe- but I do not have anyone I know here. Its not something that's immediately obvious too: I was thinking its just my shoes & or kidding myself the thick underlay is nice (its not bouncy- this is the thing- its not dense enough to be, but it is as thick) over a few days. Its the opposite to wonderful- yours is thick & expensive, mine is thick & cheap. [Can you do me a favour: can you swap over your i and o keys, or can you elongate your little finger by 1cm so it hits the right bit.]

I'll try that thanks. Its not stress I put on myself, I resent this. Its stress of others on me: paying builders & tradesmen a hell of alot of money, who treat me terribly with stuff I dont want (pressuring me to accept) with lies, now this I've paid £400 for I feel conned with p*ss poor materials. And its not stress on myself getting woken at 4am by a loud CH system I cannot understand that's 'working fine'.. nor stress on myself having creep n'bors stealing from under my nose & throwing faeces over my property for 3+ years. Anyone is rightly stressed by these. Anyone. Molehills? imagine most ^ happening at the same time & just you alone- you try it. Having a building done (it says in the book recommended on here) it warns on pg1 is one of the most stressful things in life. I can testify to this. I have -never- been so stressed as I was during the build, nasty pressurising builder stress.. & this is the last job of it (bar me doing which elieviates stress into just problems/ tasks/ totally different).

I dont really see how I can without messing it up, there's such a prominent slope-down @ edges, cos underlay seems 'quilty-ott-thick'. Literally just walked on it 2mins, & my feet (& calves too I notice with my work shoes on 1st time in here) start to ache. Its unbelievable. Underlay is crucial- I knew it was important, but no idea you could get such bad ones as to make you feel pain. Whytf didn't he just use same stuff as next room (multicloured bits n bobs 10mm or so stuff I saw him lift a corner to strip join the job to it, which is properly dense & supportive)?? cost to him, has to be.