jimseng Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago This has to be a simple one but cat6 UTP for 1/10gb ethernet and RS485. On ebay a box of 305m white is £43.85. Is this poor quality? I'm just running Ethernet around my house build, nothing specific. I know cat6 isn't really RS485 impedance but at low data rates I think I'll get away with it. trying to save money on everything but I don't want to buy cheap from ebay if it is fake/rubbish. Any thoughts?
-rick- Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago £43 seems extremely cheap. Here's some options for comparison: https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/store/cat6a-network-cable/cat6a-cable-reel-box/ I'd recommend using Cat6a rather than Cat6. Difference won't matter in most cases but if you want to run 10g or HDBase-T (HDMI over ethernet) then it might make the difference on longer/noisier runs and the price isn't hugely different. I think cat6 will work fine for rs485 over the distances involved in a house.
Mattg4321 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Thats extremely likely to be Copper Clad Aluminium (CCA). Keep away from that junk. You want solid copper or don't bother! Decent quality Cat 6 is fine for 99.9% of domestic usage now and foreseeable future. Anything above that is like spending 500% the going rate when buying a SCART lead back in the day, because it had some fancy marketing.
-rick- Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago When this is only a bit more expensive than Cat6 and comes with LSZH and outdoor rating I'd go for this. It's about 15p per metre more than standard Cat6 (from the same shop).
Mattg4321 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago There's absolutely nothing wrong with a decision to spend extra for Cat 6a, but it's simply overkill for nearly all foreseeable uses in a domestic setting, with a few exceptions, generally for people who are really into 'tech'. I've installed 10's of 000's of m of the stuff for clients, and although I don't get too involved in anything past that normally, I've never once heard an AV/security/smart etc installer say that cat 6 wasn't up to the task of what they needed it to do. In fact they often get Cat 5e to do what they need where existing cabling is in place. I personally can just think of better ways to spend my finite amount of money! If jim is on a tight budget it's highly likely Cat 6 will be more than good enough. I pay roughly 50% more for Cat 6a over Cat 6 at trade prices, for good quality cable. Cat 6 can easily be found at around £105+vat from a quick google, which is only slightly more than I am getting it for.
jimseng Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago Thanks. I had forgotten about the cca aspect. That's why I asked, I thought it was too cheap on ebay.
-rick- Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Mattg4321 said: with a few exceptions, generally for people who are really into 'tech'. Agree with this. Jim mentioned his interest in 10gb ethernet and I took that as tech interested. That in itself will probably be ok with cat 6 in most cases but for the little uplift 6a buys you more room for suboptimal install/placement. There is already a 25GBase-T standard. Not very available yet but will be in the life of the building. 10 gigabit is already quite slow compared to modern storage* so if you do tech stuff in general or specifically do stuff related to video (wannabe youtuber, etc) then I can see you wanting to upgrade to 25g when it's available to consumers. *1GB/sec. SSDs can usually do 5GB/s now, latest Macbook they are claiming upto 14GB/s 3 minutes ago, Mattg4321 said: I've installed 10's of 000's of m of the stuff for clients, and although I don't get too involved in anything past that normally, I've never once heard an AV/security/smart etc installer say that cat 6 wasn't up to the task of what they needed it to do. In fact they often get Cat 5e to do what they need where existing cabling is in place. I personally can just think of better ways to spend my finite amount of money! If jim is on a tight budget it's highly likely Cat 6 will be more than good enough. Cat 6 is fine for in a home for what is available now. But again, what you put in your walls you hope will last for decades so spending a little more now makes sense to me. TBC Cat7 is a complete waste of money and bigger number is not better here. 1
garrymartin Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago CAT6 will do 10Gbps so long as the cable isn't very long (37-55m max generally). You can't go wrong with TruHD Cat 6 HDBaseT Cable - tested to 500MHz, so good for 10Gbps if needed. Details and pricing - https://www.fscables.com/products/cat-6-hdbaset.html Datasheet - https://www.fscables.com/sites/admin/plugins/elfinder/files/fscables/Datasheets/C6T00-E00.pdf
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