Alan Ambrose Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 Looks to me like the arrows on 1 and 3 are the wrong way round, no? And what is it with their multiple brand/product names - is this not confusing enough already?
JohnMo Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 Why would 1 and 3 be the wrong way around? Just check mine, not the same make but exactly the same terminal positions. Only difference between different units is if they are configured to be left or right handed, but then 2 and 4 and 1 and 3 swop positions. 51 minutes ago, Alan Ambrose said: And what is it with their multiple brand/product names Maybe different brands for different countries, or selling you the same thing at different price points via another name
Alan Ambrose Posted November 14, 2025 Author Posted November 14, 2025 Oh I see now: That's meant to be a little house, so it doesn't mean the flow is in the direction of the arrow (no, sirree) it means the flow is into the house. The flow is actually the opposite direction in the pipe. That's clear then 😁. 1
Nickfromwales Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 3 hours ago, Alan Ambrose said: Oh I see now: That's meant to be a little house, so it doesn't mean the flow is in the direction of the arrow (no, sirree) it means the flow is into the house. The flow is actually the opposite direction in the pipe. That's clear then 😁. I got done like a kipper fitting one a couple of weeks back lol. Was looking at the symbols from the back of the unit and my poor little brain didn't allow me to mirror it. An hour or so of swearing and looking like a tit in front of the client, and all good. Noticed just after I had finished fitting the self adhesive neoprene insulation to it...ffs. 🥲😭🥲
Jolo Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 Yeah it's a bit confusing! Easy to read them as directional, which they're not. Just imagine the main unit in the loft of the little house, and it makes a bit more sense. Regarding brands, they're also sold in Germany by Wolf (also owned by Ariston) as the CWL-2. Knowing the various names helps when comparing prices on filters etc! On 14/11/2025 at 22:02, Nickfromwales said: I got done like a kipper fitting one a couple of weeks back lol. Was looking at the symbols from the back of the unit and my poor little brain didn't allow me to mirror it. An hour or so of swearing and looking like a tit in front of the client, and all good. Well I'm glad it's not just us DIYers who have to think carefully about it!
Alan Ambrose Posted yesterday at 11:27 Author Posted yesterday at 11:27 BTW this is what Google AI thinks: "The Brink Flair (manufactured by Brink Climate Systems) and the Ubbink Ubiflux Vigor are deeply related, highly efficient MVHR units. Ubbink and Brink share technology and components in the European ventilation market, meaning the Vigor and Flair series share very similar internal designs, constant-flow control systems, and matching filter/maintenance profiles, though they are branded and distributed through separate channels. The Flair series is the flagship line from Brink Climate Systems, whereas the Vigor range is marketed directly under Ubbink's Ubiflux brand." Are they the same? Maybe or maybe not.
Alan Ambrose Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago FYI I called Ubbink UK and the salesperson said the Brink / Vigor units are exactly the same except for the branding. It suggests to me that a bunch of sellers in the UK are grey importing from Europe.
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