Connecting washing machine

[LaChab]

Hi,

 

I'm trying to get my head round how to connect the washing machine (and TD, DW).

 

I wondered if anyone has used one of these, or similar.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mounted-Siphon-Washing-Machine-Chrome/dp/B00D6FCQO4/ref=asc_df_B00D6FCQO4?mcid=10ef8fd756793f09b624b4235a47ccce&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=696352102719&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10560092967412209591&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20339&hvtargid=pla-422507636596&psc=1&hvocijid=10560092967412209591-B00D6FCQO4-&hvexpln=0&gad_source=1

 

 

I think it might fit in the kickspace next to the appliance, along with the cold feed and 13a socket, which would be quite neat.

 

BUT I'm worried about not using a conventional standpipe waste.

And I can't understand where a standpipe would go, as the void in the back of diy kitchens is only 42mm, and I'd rather not remove the back of the unit.

 

Advice badly needed!

[Nickfromwales]

 

 

Install the upstand inside the unit, fixed to the back or side panel  Needs to all be accessible imo.

[LaChab]

Thanks @Nickfromwales Quite agree about accessibility, that's partly why I'm dubious about using the void.

 

Would like to avoid cluttering up the cupboard / drawer unit if possible.

 

What do you think about using one of those nozzles you referred to in that topic with a HepVo. Would that seem better than the Amazon thing? That would go under the kickspace.....

[Nickfromwales]

5 hours ago, LaChab said:

Thanks @Nickfromwales Quite agree about accessibility, that's partly why I'm dubious about using the void.

 

Would like to avoid cluttering up the cupboard / drawer unit if possible.

 

What do you think about using one of those nozzles you referred to in that topic with a HepVo. Would that seem better than the Amazon thing? That would go under the kickspace.....

Hep trap will be ok, but would be my second choice tbh.

[John Carroll]

Dom't know how far away your W/machine is from any sink but I have my Dish washer drain hose connected as shown below, the hose can be seen next to that yellow container on the right,  the other waste discharge nozzle is blanked.

Edited Tuesday at 22:44 by John Carroll

[Nickfromwales]

15 minutes ago, John Carroll said:

Dom't know how far away your W/machine is from any sink but I have my Dish washer drain hose connected as shown below, the hose can be seen next to that yellow container on the right,  the other waste discharge nozzle is blanked.

That's a combination trap, which has the issue of the dreaded 'gurgling' when the appliance is pumping out. The ideal situation is, where the discharging water is the other side of the trapped water, so it is inaudible to the room.

[LaChab]

@Nickfromwales Thanks, advice appreciated. @John Carroll Thanks for the suggestion. Those combined things do look interesting, and looking at  Screwfix etc very widely used I think. Unfortunately no sink nearby, and also I'm going to fit connections for 3 appliances.

[Nickfromwales]

1 hour ago, LaChab said:

Those combined things do look interesting, and looking at  Screwfix etc very widely used I think.

You hear the water discharging with those, so I never use them nowadays.... Not so bad if they're in a utility room with the door closed, but horrible if it's an adjoining or open-plan kitchen / dining / living space afaic.

[Super_Paulie]

11 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

You hear the water discharging with those, so I never use them nowadays.... Not so bad if they're in a utility room with the door closed, but horrible if it's an adjoining or open-plan kitchen / dining / living space afaic.

do you have any images of how you do it Nick, any that you are proud of showing off? kitchen arrives this week so i need to plumb up and i was going to use a combination trap but if i can avoid it I will do. 

[Dreadnaught]

Good point about the audible gurgling noise with a combined trap.

 

However, one advantage of a combined trap is the washing-machine liquid keeps the sink trap nice and clean. Sink traps are especially prone to drain-gunk build-up over long periods.

 

If the gurgling can be tolerated in, say a closed-door utility room, I wonder if this benefit outweighs the downside?

[Nickfromwales]

Very little gunk goes down an utility trap / sink tbh, so the issue is largely from food waste from the kitchen sink.

 

A decent bottle trap will allow regular maintenance, if so ever necessary, which means I would say "no" to the benefit/downside squire.  

 

I have lived here for 19 years and have cleaned my kitchen sink trap out prob less than 3 times, and that's probably because of lollipop sticks not gunk/stink related issues.

 

"People. stand united in the fight against gurgling traps!!!".