Depth of oriel window on plans

[Joseph45678]

Our plans had no depth specified for an oriel window.   We assumed it was to the given scale.  The width and height were specified.

 

Now we realise it is too small for building regs to be used as an egress window.   

 

Would this be the norm??  That this detail was omitted especially given that the room was intended to be a bedroom and therefore the clear window opening is set out in Building Regs?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

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[Mr Punter]

Take it up with the architect and get them to update the drawings so it complies.  Unless it is radically different you may not even need to consult the Planning Dept.

[Joseph45678]

Absolutely.  My query is whether it ought to have been there in the first place. I assumed it should have been especially given it was to be the egress window in a bedroom.  He is stating no.  

[ETC]

If the plans have been stamped approved I would be surprised if there isn’t a note somewhere in the drawings to describe where an EEW is to be located and the size it needs to be irrespective of what the elevations show.

[Redbeard]

1 hour ago, Joseph45678 said:

My query is whether it ought to have been there in the first place.

 

What is 'it' in this context?

[Joseph45678]

The depth of the side opening window.  The only dimensions on the plans were the width and height.

[Mr Punter]

It would need a clear opening width min 450mm, which is a lot for an oriel window.  Can't you have the main part opening to comply?

[Joseph45678]

The whole point of the design was to have a large unbroken pane of glass to show off the view.   The point I am trying to make 

1 the room is a bedroom in a bungalow.  This is stated on the plans.

2 All bedrooms must have an egress windown with minimum clear opening widths to meet Building Regs.

3 The depth the side panel was never given on the plans and now we have a big problem.

4 Is it a reasonable expectation that the depth of the side window should have been written on the plans?   Again I stress it was designed as a bedroom and this window was for egress.

 

 

 

 

 

[DevilDamo]

1 hour ago, Joseph45678 said:

Is it a reasonable expectation that the depth of the side window should have been written on the plans?

Yes. But if in doubt, ask.

[Mr Punter]

You need to play this from where you are and not look to assign blame.  Is there any way the design of the window could be modified to comply with Building Regs?  If you post up a floor plan you may get some useful suggestions.

[ETC]

Why do you need as EEW if it’s a bungalow?

[Mr Punter]

On 01/06/2025 at 19:13, ETC said:

Why do you need as EEW if it’s a bungalow?

 

Could be an inner room?

[G and J]

Even downstairs bedrooms need an egress window.  I think.

[ETC]

2 hours ago, G and J said:

Even downstairs bedrooms need an egress window.  I think.

Only if it’s an inner room.

[G and J]

37 minutes ago, ETC said:

Only if it’s an inner room.

What does “inner room” actually mean?  One without a door opening directly to the outside?

[Mr Punter]

1 hour ago, G and J said:

What does “inner room” actually mean?  One without a door opening directly to the outside?

 

A room that is accessed via another habitable room rather than a corridor / hallway.

[DevilDamo]

2 hours ago, G and J said:

What does “inner room” actually mean?  One without a door opening directly to the outside?

 

[G and J]

Which means that none of our bedrooms require emergency escape windows as they are all directly connected with the front door via a landing, stairs and a hall.  
 

I've been worrying over nothing!

[ETC]

Might be an idea to post a plan.

[DevilDamo]

5 hours ago, G and J said:

Which means that none of our bedrooms require emergency escape windows as they are all directly connected with the front door via a landing, stairs and a hall.  
 

I've been worrying over nothing!

Is yours a single, two or three storey dwelling?

[G and J]

Two storey, two beds upstairs, one down. Each with an egress window planned so we are covered anyway. 
 

It's wild (and feels random) how varying opinions are about such things. I kinda feel the need for a fire escape window should be pretty cut and dried.  I’ve posted our plans on our blog.  I’ll paste a link in a mo. 

[G and J]

 

[G and J]

Ok that didn’t work.  Try this!

[DevilDamo]

51 minutes ago, G and J said:

Two storey,

Which would have different requirements than a single storey (bungalow) dwelling. The number of storeys dictate the means of escape requirements.