EdSta Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Hi all, I’m shortly going to be building a garden room using a SIPS system. I’m getting conflicting advice about the foundations. I’ve laid a reinforced concrete slab. The floor will be a SIPs panel (in hindsight perhaps not the wisest choice!). In some places it looks like the floor panels can be laid directly on the concrete (above a DPM), others suggest it needs to be vented and sit on bearers (say 50mm above the slab). I’m not keen on the bearers idea because it gives a place for vermin to reside and I don’t understand why you would need ventilation if you’ve got a VCL on the inside and a DPM below (and indeed that would be no different from how a SIPs roof would be in terms of ventilation). I’m waiting to hear from my supplier but have sketched out a proposal to put it on 50mm insulation on top of the slab with a DPM above the insulation but below the SIPs floor. Very interested in the views of others whilst I wait to hear. Many thanks, Ed
Russell griffiths Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Replace the pir with XPS , make sure you put some form of rodent barrier over the ends and sides.
EdSta Posted Sunday at 18:13 Author Posted Sunday at 18:13 Thanks for the reply Russell. Seems like a good call on the XPS. Interestingly my provider said no problem on the breathability side of my proposed build up but expressed a bit of concern about point loading on the walls so I might use a timber perimeter with the XPS inside.
Russell griffiths Posted Monday at 14:54 Posted Monday at 14:54 20 hours ago, EdSta said: Thanks for the reply Russell. Seems like a good call on the XPS. Interestingly my provider said no problem on the breathability side of my proposed build up but expressed a bit of concern about point loading on the walls so I might use a timber perimeter with the XPS inside. Get a higher loading xps. 500 or more. They build car parks on it.
Onoff Posted Monday at 15:30 Posted Monday at 15:30 On 27/05/2025 at 20:26, Russell griffiths said: make sure you put some form of rodent barrier over the ends and sides. A layer of broken glass used to be put down around here before they concreted the slabs...
saveasteading Posted Monday at 15:47 Posted Monday at 15:47 If there was local ponding, then it will reach above the concrete slab. Never rely on dpm providing tanking. I would lift the slab higher. XPS is half the price and half the insulation of PIR. Which is your priority? 48 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: They build car parks on it. Yes but... if you walk on it, it dents. A car wheel spread over a wide area is less pressure than the wall sitting on the edge, as shown. I would sit the wall on the concrete or a kerb. insulation lost there is easily regained elsewhere.
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