EdSta Posted May 27, 2025 Posted May 27, 2025 Hi all, I’m shortly going to be building a garden room using a SIPS system. I’m getting conflicting advice about the foundations. I’ve laid a reinforced concrete slab. The floor will be a SIPs panel (in hindsight perhaps not the wisest choice!). In some places it looks like the floor panels can be laid directly on the concrete (above a DPM), others suggest it needs to be vented and sit on bearers (say 50mm above the slab). I’m not keen on the bearers idea because it gives a place for vermin to reside and I don’t understand why you would need ventilation if you’ve got a VCL on the inside and a DPM below (and indeed that would be no different from how a SIPs roof would be in terms of ventilation). I’m waiting to hear from my supplier but have sketched out a proposal to put it on 50mm insulation on top of the slab with a DPM above the insulation but below the SIPs floor. Very interested in the views of others whilst I wait to hear. Many thanks, Ed
Russell griffiths Posted May 27, 2025 Posted May 27, 2025 Replace the pir with XPS , make sure you put some form of rodent barrier over the ends and sides.
EdSta Posted June 1, 2025 Author Posted June 1, 2025 Thanks for the reply Russell. Seems like a good call on the XPS. Interestingly my provider said no problem on the breathability side of my proposed build up but expressed a bit of concern about point loading on the walls so I might use a timber perimeter with the XPS inside.
Russell griffiths Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 20 hours ago, EdSta said: Thanks for the reply Russell. Seems like a good call on the XPS. Interestingly my provider said no problem on the breathability side of my proposed build up but expressed a bit of concern about point loading on the walls so I might use a timber perimeter with the XPS inside. Get a higher loading xps. 500 or more. They build car parks on it.
Onoff Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 On 27/05/2025 at 20:26, Russell griffiths said: make sure you put some form of rodent barrier over the ends and sides. A layer of broken glass used to be put down around here before they concreted the slabs...
saveasteading Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 If there was local ponding, then it will reach above the concrete slab. Never rely on dpm providing tanking. I would lift the slab higher. XPS is half the price and half the insulation of PIR. Which is your priority? 48 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: They build car parks on it. Yes but... if you walk on it, it dents. A car wheel spread over a wide area is less pressure than the wall sitting on the edge, as shown. I would sit the wall on the concrete or a kerb. insulation lost there is easily regained elsewhere.
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