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Will have an 80-90 cm, likely 5 zone, induction hob with hood extractor. Extraction will be to the outside via the wall the extractor is mounted on. We also have MVHR.

 

Kitchen crew are recommending a specific induction extractor. The 'standard' extractor they do is a Galvamet, but they're recommending a Faber. I compared the specs against each other and almost across the board the 'standard' Galvamet wins out against the 'induction' Faber (attached image comparison of specs). 

 

I mentioned this to kitchen crew who said it's the Faber 'Steam Off System' that makes them still recommend the Faber. Said they switched to recommending the Faber because they were getting feedback from customers who had the Galvamet, but when these customers later upgraded to an induction hob, they were getting loads of condensation dripping off the Galvamet.

 

Faber is 500 bucks more than the Galvamet. We're at the last stages of a new build, over budget, so don't want to be unnecessarily spending but also prefer to get this right if it needs it.

 

The Faber has that steam system and is 10cm winder than the Galvamet, but the Galvamet has better fluid dynamics, stronger air flow, and is quieter. 

 

Any ideas why the Faber, with poorer specs, may be the better option?

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With grease filtering rated that poorly, I'd choose neither.

 

BTW, recirculating hoods are normally chosen for MVHR, in case you've missed that.

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Yeah, neither of those have very good specs at all. 
 

I’ve never experienced condensation dripping from my extractor hood, above an 80cm 5-ring induction hob, even with a few pots on the boil at the same time. 
 

Just get a Miele via their discount outlet list. 

Posted (edited)
51 minutes ago, Mike said:

With grease filtering rated that poorly, I'd choose neither.

 

BTW, recirculating hoods are normally chosen for MVHR, in case you've missed that.

 

Did not know that! Just searched here and online. If I've understood it, recirculating is for grease filtering while the MVHR generally takes care of the rest?

 

44 minutes ago, ectoplasmosis said:

Yeah, neither of those have very good specs at all. 
 

I’ve never experienced condensation dripping from my extractor hood, above an 80cm 5-ring induction hob, even with a few pots on the boil at the same time. 
 

Just get a Miele via their discount outlet list. 

 

Can I ask what make/model you have? And I can't seem to locate Miele discount outlet - is that in the UK?

 

Meant to mention the extractor has to be a built-in / integrate one as we're getting a timber hood made for it.

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1 minute ago, Gaf said:

If I've understood it, recirculating is for grease filtering while the MVHR generally takes care of the rest?

Yes, that's right.

 

You also want the MVHR extract terminal a couple of metres or so away from the hood (so the hood does its job), plus a filter on the terminal as backup - either a sock filter (behind the terminal - a good idea on all extracts) or a purpose-designed kitchen terminal (with visible filter).

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7 hours ago, Mike said:

Yes, that's right.

 

You also want the MVHR extract terminal a couple of metres or so away from the hood (so the hood does its job), plus a filter on the terminal as backup - either a sock filter (behind the terminal - a good idea on all extracts) or a purpose-designed kitchen terminal (with visible filter).

 

So not how our architect spec’d it? 😂

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Keep it simple, get and induction hob with integrated downdraft recirculating extractor. Lots on here (myself included) have that setup and are very happy. No ugly, cumbersome bulkhead over your cooking area either.

 

Architects are not kitchen designers ...

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19 minutes ago, Conor said:

Keep it simple, get and induction hob with integrated downdraft recirculating extractor. Lots on here (myself included) have that setup and are very happy. No ugly, cumbersome bulkhead over your cooking area either.

 

Architects are not kitchen designers ...

 

Id be for this but herself wants the cooker hood as a feature in the kitchen. Getting it custom made and ordered already… 😬

Posted
9 hours ago, Gaf said:

Can I ask what make/model you have? And I can't seem to locate Miele discount outlet - is that in the UK?


We have a Miele DA2578, bought brand new on eBay for £250. It’s very quiet, A-rated grease filtering, and can be linked wirelessly to a Miele hob for automatic start/stop/speed adjustment. 
 

The Miele UK outlet is a PDF file direct from their website, updated weekly. 

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Contacted one of the MVHR installers locally and he had an interesting take. Said a potential reason the cheaper Galvament unit might be causing the condensation issues is actually, paradoxically, because it's more powerful than the more expensive Faber unit. With airtightness levels in houses, he said a more powerful unit will suck out so much air that the MVHR can't compensate to get enough air into the house, so the fan in the extractor might just start spinning but not actually extracting, leaving the humidity in the air above the hob resulting in the condensation.

 

He also wasn't a fan of the recirculating ones and advised venting externally to remove grease that isn't properly filtered out so that it's not getting up into the MVHR. Said just to crack a window whilst the extractor is on and that's sufficient. 

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13 hours ago, Gaf said:

So not how our architect spec’d it? 😂

At least you caught it in time :)

 

5 hours ago, Gaf said:

He also wasn't a fan of the recirculating ones and advised venting externally to remove grease that isn't properly filtered out

Maybe because he's recommending ones that only remove half the grease...

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