Extra storeys by permitted development?

[Alan Ambrose]

Does anyone have any practical experience of how 'permitted development rights for extra storeys' works?

 

e.g. https://www.planningportal.co.uk/permission/common-projects/additional-storeys-extending-upwards/planning-permission

 

Seems too good to be true . For instance, could I build a bungalow with a plan to 'simply' lift the roof up and build under it?

[joe90]

Gosh I always thought building above a existing ridge line required planning permission 🤔 every day is a school day (even for old farts like me 🤣)

[Susie]

Sorry, You can’t build a bungalow then build upwards.

the bungalow has to already have been built 

• Was constructed between 1 July 1948 and 28 October 2018

I think this rule came in a few years ago, I was thinking at the time my mum had just moved to retirement flats middle floor, (ground floor below and one a floor above) but they could decide to build extra floors as it’s on a good location. 

[LiamJones]

Yeah the date range ruled me out, had to go planning permission for going upwards on 1930s bungalow! Got permission anyway, albeit with some imposed ridge and eaves heights!

[DevilDamo]

2 hours ago, Alan Ambrose said:

could I build a bungalow with a plan to 'simply' lift the roof up and build under it?

Yes, but you will require Planning.

[Alan Ambrose]

>>> Was constructed between 1 July 1948 and 28 October 2018

 

Ah, I missed that. Presumably a bureaucrat came up with that time span. So that excludes a lot of old Victorian and Georgian city houses.

 

Goodness, you're invited to make sense of these...

 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/632/contents/made

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/632/regulation/22/made

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/596/schedule/2/part/20/crossheading/class-ad-new-dwellinghouses-on-detached-buildings-in-use-as-dwellinghouses?view=plain

 

 

 

[Susie]

4 hours ago, Alan Ambrose said:

>>> Was constructed between 1 July 1948 and 28 October 2018

 

Ah, I missed that. Presumably a bureaucrat came up with that time span. So that excludes a lot of old Victorian and Georgian city houses.

 

Goodness, you're invited to make sense of these...

 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/632/contents/made

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/632/regulation/22/made

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/596/schedule/2/part/20/crossheading/class-ad-new-dwellinghouses-on-detached-buildings-in-use-as-dwellinghouses?view=plain

 

 

 

Aaah not my usual bedtime reading. I find any documents that are from legislation.gov particularly hard to read, be that planning, tax or benefits. 
although I’m sure if I did start to read them I would fall asleep quicker. 😂

 

[Alan Ambrose]

On reflection I'm thinking that the various versions of the 'build upwards' idea is a government pipe dream and can't be realised in most cases. Duh, apart from anything else, the foundations were not designed for the extra load.