Coanda Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) Could someone help? If I know there is air flowing through a 100mm duct at .80m per second, how do I compute that to m3 per hour? Edited October 29, 2023 by Coanda
saveasteading Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 7,800mm2 x 1,000mm per second = 7,800,000 mm3 / s X 60 x60 / 1,000 /1,000/1,000 28.26 m3 / h. Somebody check this please.
SteamyTea Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) π x r2 = area of pipe 3.1416 [π] x 0.052 [m] = 0.007854 [m²] Flow rate x area = volume per unit time. 0.8 [m/s] X 0.007854 [m²] = 0.0062832 [m³/s] 3600 seconds in an hour. 0.0062832 [m³/s] x 3600 = 22.61952 m³/h For bonus marks Approximate density of air 1.25 kg/m³ 22.61952 [m³/h] x 1.25 [kg/m³] = 28.2744 kg/h. Specific heat capacity of dry air approximately 1 kJ/kg.K So to heat (or cool) 28.3 kg by 1K will take. 28.3 [kg] x 1 [kJ/kg.K] x 1 [K] = 28.3 kJ To convert to kWh, multiply by 0.00027778 (1 / 3600 [s]) 28.3 [kg] x 0.00027778 = 0.007861111111 kWh. As this relates to the flow rate per hour, dividing by 1 hour will give the power, in kW, multiply by 1000 will convert it to watts. 0.007861111111 [kWh] x 1000 = 7.9 W. I think, please check. Edited October 29, 2023 by SteamyTea
saveasteading Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 Oops that was for 1m/s So 28.26 x 0.8 = 22.6.
SteamyTea Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 17:35, saveasteading said: Oops that was for 1m/s So 28.26 x 0.8 = 22.6. Expand Easy error to make, I usual reduce to a reciprocal and then multiply at the end. Then forget.
Adrian Walker Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 13:18, Coanda said: Could someone help? If I know there is air flowing through a 100mm duct at .80m per second, how do I compute that to m3 per hour? Expand BTW it is normal to have the answer in litres/second for MVHR calculations.
SteamyTea Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 17:52, Adrian Walker said: BTW it is normal to have the answer in litres/second for MVHR calculations. Expand I have never understood why, we have SI units to make life simple.
Adrian Walker Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:01, SteamyTea said: I have never understood why, we have SI units to make life simple. Expand Because it's easier for most people to imagine 9 litres per second rather than 32.4 cubic metres per hour, that said SI units do make life simpler. I do hate it when people use centimetres rather than millimetres.
SteamyTea Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:09, Adrian Walker said: I do hate it when people use centimetres rather than millimetres Expand Or metres even. 1
Coanda Posted October 29, 2023 Author Posted October 29, 2023 Thank you one and all. I was very good at math in school but alas, that was a long time ago.
SteamyTea Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:13, Coanda said: Thank you one and all. I was very good at math in school but alas, that was a long time ago. Expand You have to use it to very day. Even then it is easy to make errors.
JohnMo Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 17:52, Adrian Walker said: BTW it is normal to have the answer in litres/second for MVHR calculations. Expand The house is measured in metres so its volume in m3 is an easy calculation, air changes an hours (ACH) is m3/h - an easy outcome, so the maths in the same units is super simple. Changing the litres/second don't see the point. House 200m2, 2.5m tall, is 500m3, 0.5ACH, is 250m3/hr. All maths done in the head, my flow meter works in the same units, you just need to work out the room flow rates from there. Why bother the litres/sec 1
SteamyTea Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 20:58, JohnMo said: The house is measured in metres so its volume in m3 is an easy calculation, air changes an hours (ACH) is m3/h - an easy outcome, so the maths in the same units is super simple. Changing the litres/second don't see the point. Expand In the US of A, they measure houses in feet, but oddly don't use fluid oz for volume, they stick to cubic feet per minute. As an aside, when I listen to energy traders/experts on the radio talking about 'the energy crisis', they keep talking about the price of a therm pf gas. And the government uses barrel of oil equivalent in reports. And how often do we hear someone say they use a lot of energy, then say it is "£300 a month". SI and the derived units are so easy to understand. 1
Coanda Posted October 29, 2023 Author Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 21:18, SteamyTea said: In the US of A, they measure houses in feet, but oddly don't use fluid oz for volume, they stick to cubic feet per minute. Expand A utube video I saw from the USA talked about ton units for MVHR or was it aircon.
SteamyTea Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 21:47, Coanda said: A utube video I saw from the USA talked about ton units for MVHR or was it aircon. Expand Is Aircon. Think it is the amount of energy to cool a ton of water 1⁰f. 1
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