Change of use PP

[Bluebaron]

I recently got PP to convert my garage to two storey (room above) with a large side extension, ( garden room). As it happens it turns out the foundation are not acceptable to my BCO, Who for some reason wants 2m trench fill so I’ll have to demolish and start again. 
 

anyway I was wondering if it would be to possible convert the PP to a new separate dwelling . My neighbour recently got denied on the fact the development was in flood plain 2 but if I’m not building anything bigger than what’s already approved then surely that argument should be moot?

 

Thoughts?

Garage plans.pdf

[Pocster]

As soon as a read your text I said out loud “ planning for a new build, man !!!! “

The answer is yes ! . You are then going for change of use as your footprint has passed on your planning application. Watch the council squirm and the neighbours bitch . What a fantastic Xmas gift to your self !

Edited December 24, 2022 by pocster

[Pocster]

Bin the garages in the self contained dwelling - but probably will need ‘parking’ area for 1 vehicle . Even make the new planning application slightly larger if I were you …

[Bluebaron]

Thanks, the more I look at it the more I’m thinking I’ll try for full planning and a new dwelling. Not sure how difficult that would be but I’m hoping the principal of a large development has been established/approved. 
 

I’ve attached a location plan.

 

I would probably need to replace the lost garage for the existing house but plenty of room on the other side for that.

 

 

[ProDave]

16 minutes ago, Bluebaron said:

 

 

 

That looks to crying out for a house in the back garden.  Is that what the house to the right of yours has done?

[Bluebaron]

Yes I moved in in 2013, houses 1/2 were done in late 80’s, 3 was done around 1980, 4 around 1995.

 

I’ve an option agreement for 5/6 for another 18 months to a developer. 
 

 

 

 

[ProDave]

13 minutes ago, Bluebaron said:

e an option agreement for 5/6 for another 18 months to a developer.

So if the developer does not exercise his option after the 18 months are you free to do what you want with the plots?  Do they (did they) have planning permission?

 

Is there room (without knowing the dimensions) to divide the front and put another house alongside the existing?  Garage would have to go to make access I suspect.

[Bluebaron]

Yes that’s correct but PP hasn’t been applied for yet for the rear land, they have 18 months to secure or forfeit.

 

The plan is to use the west boundary where I have secured PP for the garage conversion/extension for a new application for single dwelling. I’ll replace the garage to the front/east leaving enough room for access road to the rear if that secures planning.

[Bluebaron]

Planning for my rear houses has gone to pot due to sequential test. (See my other post)

 

I’m now revisiting this option what would be the best way to proceed?

 

I assume some sort of change of use to make the Annex a self-contained dwelling? If that is approved then a following application to demolish and complete rebuild to something more suitable. 

 

Is that a straightforward application or a whole load of hoops?

[Bluebaron]

I think i may have answered my own question but I’m going to put an application in to remove the condition in the planning that states:

 

”The development hereby permitted shall not be occupied at any other time other than for the purposes ancillary to the residential use of the dwelling occupying the application site.
Reason: To ensure that the development is occupied as ancillary to the dwelling and in the interests of the residential amenities of the locality with regard to Reigate and Banstead Development Management Plan 2019 policy DES1.”

 

under the section of “what would you like this changed to” I’ve put residential annex for independent living”.

 

I assume of that get approved then I can   Then make a further move to list it as a separate dwelling?

[Temp]

3 hours ago, Bluebaron said:

I think i may have answered my own question but I’m going to put an application in to remove the condition in the planning that states:

 

”The development hereby permitted shall not be occupied at any other time other than for the purposes ancillary to the residential use of the dwelling occupying the application site.
Reason: To ensure that the development is occupied as ancillary to the dwelling and in the interests of the residential amenities of the locality with regard to Reigate and Banstead Development Management Plan 2019 policy DES1.”

 

under the section of “what would you like this changed to” I’ve put residential annex for independent living”.

 

 

I think you just need to have the condition removed. eg Not replaced with anything. 

 

[Bluebaron]

Thanks Temp,

 

I think the actual question on the form was “If you wish the existing condition to be changed, please state how you wish the condition to be varied”.

 

I guess I could just put “remove condition entirely?