robot enthusiast Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Hi all, I currently have a portland cement render on the external walls of my house, and i want to remove it and replace with a breathable product. Pretty tight for space in some areas so EWI unfortunately, and i'm not sure its fully breathable. If i could use a plaster product that was breathable and gave good u-values this would be even better. Does anyone know of any products or had experience with any here? Many thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Welcome to the forum. I'm not an expert on insulating render but there are limits on how effective any thin insulation can be due to the basic properties of materials. Aerogel is expensive and not easily incorporated. PIR is probably second only to Aerogel and typically 50-60mm is needed used to achieve only reasonable u-values. If building again I'd be looking at 100mm+. So don't expect miracles from any render alone. Is it a cavity wall or solid wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonD Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 You could have a look at Seciltek ecoCork Insulating render as a potential solution. I've used the ecocork internally and will be doing a long wall with it in my current project - weird stuff to work with as it's literally like pasting cork granules to the wall. Here's a link: https://www.mikewye.co.uk/product/secil-ecocork/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot enthusiast Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Temp said: Welcome to the forum. I'm not an expert on insulating render but there are limits on how effective any thin insulation can be due to the basic properties of materials. Aerogel is expensive and not easily incorporated. PIR is probably second only to Aerogel and typically 50-60mm is needed used to achieve only reasonable u-values. If building again I'd be looking at 100mm+. So don't expect miracles from any render alone. Is it a cavity wall or solid wall? Yep - solid double brick walls with no cavity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot enthusiast Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, SimonD said: You could have a look at Seciltek ecoCork Insulating render as a potential solution. I've used the ecocork internally and will be doing a long wall with it in my current project - weird stuff to work with as it's literally like pasting cork granules to the wall. Here's a link: https://www.mikewye.co.uk/product/secil-ecocork/ Thanks will take a look. I heard renovating plaster can work but that was from a jobbing plasterer who was likely sniffing for work - I would need to do some more reading on all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger440 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 They sell much the same as mike wye, but rather more info on the website: https://www.lime.org.uk/products.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Are building control are involved? If so best not tell them that the new render has insulating properties as they may want the upgrade to meet better standards than can be achieved without EWI or IWI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonD Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Temp said: Are building control are involved? If so best not tell them that the new render has insulating properties as they may want the upgrade to meet better standards than can be achieved without EWI or IWI. Depending on how to look at it, part L does thankfully contain numerous caveats to allow for flexibility here, and generally that u-value should not exceed 0.7 on improved elements. In some cases you can actually get away with more. IWI or EWI definitely best if you can do it mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger440 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, SimonD said: Depending on how to look at it, part L does thankfully contain numerous caveats to allow for flexibility here, and generally that u-value should not exceed 0.7 on improved elements. In some cases you can actually get away with more. IWI or EWI definitely best if you can do it mind you. Or dont tell them. I find this approach much easier. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot enthusiast Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 Thanks all for some great help. I'm going to get my head into some more research and call some of the companies, very much appreciate your knowledge and helpful links. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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