dabba Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 In the planning process for a self build bungalow (plus bedroom & bathroom in roof space) design all agreed, I've been sent the draft conditions all straight forward apart from one 'details shall demonstrate a reduction in carbon emissions of a least 28% through the provision of renewable or low carbon technologies or through energy efficiency measures and at least a 19% reduction in dwelling emission rate compared to the Target Emission rate' I think this is a new requirement for our area, and I'm struggling to find any formation how to address this condition, I would welcome some advice please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 get a sap calc done and see if the score is 19% below the target emission rate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabba Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Thanks for reply, would this need to be done by a specialist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_L Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, dabba said: 'details shall demonstrate a reduction in carbon emissions of a least 28% through the provision of renewable or low carbon technologies or through energy efficiency measures relative to what? particularly if insulation/mvhr can be considered an energy efficiency measure 2 minutes ago, dabba said: Thanks for reply, would this need to be done by a specialist? Usually by an OCDEA (On Construction Domestic Assessor) who would also do the carbon emissions as part of the design SAP assessment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADLIan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I come across these types of planning conditions on a regular basis and it is obvious that they are written by people who don't know what they are talking about. You actually have 2 slightly different conditions here, I normally deal with these as follows; The 19% reduction in DER over the TER is simple and will probably mean using renewables/low energy (need to check with the planners what is included or allowable here!) The 28% reduction is arrived at by removing all of the above renewables and comparing the DER/TER (this dwelling may fail the Regs but this is not an issue for the planning condition). Ask the question of the planners - doubt you'll get a sensible reply! As above get an OCDEA on board asap to advise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabba Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Thanks Ian, Planner not able to help much as you say, it is new to our area, I'll look out for a local (York) OCDEA adviser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADLIan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Ridiculous situation of local authority introducing these conditions and not having a clue what they are doing. Sometimes there is a get out clause stating if the planning condition makes the scheme not economically viable the condition can be dropped. A scheme of 17 houses near me had a similar condition dropped when the developer made a simple statement to this effect but no figures or costings to back up this statement! Has the local authority a 'sustainability officer' or similar you could ask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdf27 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Can I just check my understanding of this is correct? The 19% reduction is saying that the SAP CO2 emissions must be at least 19% better than a building of the same shape and size built to building regulations minimum. The 28% reduction is in practice saying that you must have a big enough PV system to offset 28% of the CO2 emissions of your final building. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_L Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) @pdf27 1 hour ago, pdf27 said: The 19% reduction is saying that the SAP CO2 emissions must be at least 19% better than a building of the same shape and size built to building regulations minimum. The 19% reduction is saying that the SAP CO2 emissions must be at least 19% better than a building of the same shape and size built to the notional building specification in Appendix R of SAP2012 (page108). Can also be found in Part L1A. 1 hour ago, pdf27 said: The 28% reduction is in practice saying that you must have a big enough PV system to offset 28% of the CO2 emissions of your final building. IMHO The 28% is so undefined as to be impossible to quantify Edited March 18, 2021 by A_L 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dabba Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Thanks for your replies, I must admit it came out of the blue, checked with planner and it definitely must stay as a condition, I was hoping to see earlier applications with this requirement to see what they had come up with but its that recent I can't find any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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