daiking Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Does a boiling water tap require any specific electrical supply or just off a decent ring main? (I.e. recent install without eleventy-four bodged spurs off it already) Under the sink there is a single socket for the dishwasher on a kitchen ring main. That switched socket is connected to a wall mounted grid switch isolator. Kitchen wise, the monster hob is on its own monster supply and the 2 ovens are on different circuits so maybe there’s 2 rings in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Quooker and dishwasher on the same D socket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 45 minutes ago, nod said: Quooker and dishwasher on the same D socket Cheers. Does that have an above worktop isolator as well? The 3 switch grid I have is for the dishwasher, fridge and extractor fan. But if the Quooker is plug-in then they should already be a suitable rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, daiking said: Cheers. Does that have an above worktop isolator as well? The 3 switch grid I have is for the dishwasher, fridge and extractor fan. But if the Quooker is plug-in then they should already be a suitable rating. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 The under sink cupboard is full of crap so everything will fit and there’ll be some way to tap in the waste pipe. My concern from looking at the installation guide is that the current tap hole is only 40mm from the edge of the worktop/sink, not the specified 70mm. It can’t be easy fitting it in the 100mm gap behind the sink but that must be the same for any replacement tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 23/06/2020 at 10:23, nod said: Quooker and dishwasher on the same D socket @nod that looks like the boiler unit is on the deck. Does that mean the £100 bracket is not required? Also, does anyone have the COMBI unit? I’m wonder is if it’s worth the extra. It does take a while for hot water to get to the kitchen tap. Having instant hot water would be very convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 My wife chose the German kitchen Spent £££££ on quarts work surfaces I chose the Quooker Money well spent The unit is absolutely fine free standing Quite stable when full The two years guarantee was disappointing Parts only We did have a problem after twelve months But I found the unit easy to dismantle and clear the limescale I combined unit is on my shopping list for our next build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 14 hours ago, nod said: My wife chose the German kitchen Spent £££££ on quarts work surfaces I chose the Quooker Money well spent The unit is absolutely fine free standing Quite stable when full The two years guarantee was disappointing Parts only We did have a problem after twelve months But I found the unit easy to dismantle and clear the limescale I combined unit is on my shopping list for our next build Have you had the scale reduction filter installed? Highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 No I simply removed the internal filter and flushed it out It works perfect now I was surprised how much was in there We are in a soft water area 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, ryder72 said: Have you had the scale reduction filter installed? Highly recommended. Really? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, daiking said: Really? ? Exactly I thought I’d be in there with a pin ? The problem we where having was that we would come home and the tap would be flashing and running cold Quick reset 20 minute wait and all was fine For two or three days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) @ryder72 to be honest the accessory filter info seems deliberately obtuse and dare I say it misleading. The way the cold water filter is described - switch from tap water to cold filtered water - sounds like it chills the water. It doesn't does it? You need the CUBE for that don't you? Wouldn't a £20 10 inch water filter with £5 cartridges do similar? Which is something I've supposed to have done for the last 5 years. Edited August 7, 2020 by daiking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, nod said: Exactly I thought I’d be in there with a pin ? The problem we where having was that we would come home and the tap would be flashing and running cold Quick reset 20 minute wait and all was fine For two or three days That filter is the internal filter that needs changing at 3-5 years? We don't have hard water but we do get some build up over time. That said, the coffee machine has said its scaled up pretty much since we bought it - warning light. I might descale it every 6 months or so but it never goes out and so far has never stopped working. been there years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 We where told 3 to 5 years I would say it’s worth removing the filter and cleaning it each year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Ok so this is how it works- The boiling tank comes with a filter with a life of 5 years. This is for soft water areas (scotland/Cornwall). Rest of the country a scale reduction filter unit is recommended which has a life of 15-18 months. My understanding is warranties are valid in the rest of the uk ONLY is the scale reduction filter is installed. The cold water filter is a completely different unit for reducing impurities in water. The price is hugely marked up but there could be compatibility issues between the fusion/flex taps and a third party water filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, ryder72 said: Ok so this is how it works- The boiling tank comes with a filter with a life of 5 years. This is for soft water areas (scotland/Cornwall). Rest of the country a scale reduction filter unit is recommended which has a life of 15-18 months. My understanding is warranties are valid in the rest of the uk ONLY is the scale reduction filter is installed. The cold water filter is a completely different unit for reducing impurities in water. The price is hugely marked up but there could be compatibility issues between the fusion/flex taps and a third party water filter. The weird thing is that if you go to their site and price up a tap, if you chose the pro3 reservoir, it gives you the option of the scale control plus cartridge. But if you select the pro7 or combi reservoir, you don't get the option to add the scale control. But there are instructions to install a scale control cartridge with a combi reservoir available. They don't make it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ryder72 said: Ok so this is how it works- The boiling tank comes with a filter with a life of 5 years. This is for soft water areas (scotland/Cornwall). Rest of the country a scale reduction filter unit is recommended which has a life of 15-18 months. My understanding is warranties are valid in the rest of the uk ONLY is the scale reduction filter is installed. The cold water filter is a completely different unit for reducing impurities in water. The price is hugely marked up but there could be compatibility issues between the fusion/flex taps and a third party water filter. (expletive deleted) me https://www.quooker.co.uk/media/wysiwyg/i/n/installation_guide_scale_control_plus.pdf the combi tank eats cartridges 13 weeks per £80 cartridge? At least Turpin wore a mask. Edited August 7, 2020 by daiking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) It can't be witchcraft, surely their is a basic third party scale controller cartridge that can be added to the general water supply upstream (like a standard water filter) that will be a fifth of the price of the Quooker units. Edited August 7, 2020 by daiking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 United Utilities are telling me my water is Moderately Soft with a hardness Clarke of 4.69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Wavering on getting the limescale controller - have cleaned out our Quooker unit 3 times in last 4 years - they will send you the kit for free. However the cost of new filters is really of putting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: Wavering on getting the limescale controller - have cleaned out our Quooker unit 3 times in last 4 years - they will send you the kit for free. However the cost of new filters is really of putting. Surely one of these in a standard 10" filter housing will do the job? https://www.ebay.co.uk/c/22004755961?iid=233339449058 I need to get a charcoal filter for water taste anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, daiking said: Surely one of these in a standard 10" filter housing will do the job? https://www.ebay.co.uk/c/22004755961?iid=233339449058 I need to get a charcoal filter for water taste anyway. What's in the filter in the unit itself, I think that is charcoal. Mine needs replaces anyway, £30 from Quooker direct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: What's in the filter in the unit itself, I think that is charcoal. Mine needs replaces anyway, £30 from Quooker direct. standard water filters are charcoal to take the chlorine out but that scale one is 'polyphosphate', claims to be some sort of IX material. I dunno, I'm not a process engineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 Have tap, supposed to be fitted next week. Need to clear kitchen cupboard, replace single socket with double socket and cross fingers. My friendly approachable kitchen retailer says they don't normally bother with the extra filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Is the additional scale control filter you refer to or the cold water filter? If its the former, you friendly kitchen retailer should tell you that the Quooker warranty is valid only if in scale filter is installed anywhere in the UK except Scotland and Devon/Cornwall due to how hard the water is. If its the latter, it may be a compatibility as the Fusion tap dispenses cold filtered water from the main tap itself . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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