Part Q

[Russell griffiths]

Can anybody tell me what the new window security regs intail, I thought it was all about locks but have just been told glass choice is important as well. 

 

Cheers peeps. 

[craig]

All shifting towards SBD as standard, basically boils down to security. Laminated outer pane on ground floor windows. That must resist a physical attack by an opportunist/casual burglar.

 

Doors and windows must be manufactured to a design that has been tested and shown to meet the security requirements of British Standards publication PAS 24 (equivalent EN standard RC2 is acceptable).

 

PAS24 is published by the BSI. PAS 24 provides a method for testing and assessing doors and windows in relation to security.

 

All ground floor and accessible doors must have suitable laminated glass with a security value of P2A or better. Windows do not require laminate glass for PAS24 but must have a locking handle.

Edited July 27, 2019 by craig

[Russell griffiths]

Hi @craig

confused as normal, in your answer you say 

On 27/07/2019 at 13:15, craig said:

Laminated outer pane on ground floor windows

However you also say

On 27/07/2019 at 13:15, craig said:

 

 

All ground floor and accessible doors must have suitable laminated glass with a security value of P2A or better. Windows do not require laminate glass for PAS24 but must have a locking handle

So are there two lots of regs we need to look at. Should I clarify with bc. 

Cheers russ. 

[craig]

It’s the same thing, all ground floor windows with laminated glass. Pas24 tells you the laminated glass should be P2A lamination or better.

[Russell griffiths]

Hi @craig

Doing a lot of reading, and still not as clear cut as I would like

 

so let’s say I have a window that is in a downstairs room, bottom of window is 600mm from floor, this would require TOUGHENED GLASS for inner pane, and LAMINATED GLASS for outer pane. 

Is this correct???

 

 

[Temp]

That would be my understanding. Toughened inner for safety reasons, laminated outer for safety and security.

[craig]

Anything below 800mm will need to be toughened/laminated. Anything within 300mm of a external door will need to be toughened/laminated.

[mattgibbs]

On 27/07/2019 at 13:15, craig said:

All shifting towards SBD as standard, basically boils down to security. Laminated outer pane on ground floor windows. That must resist a physical attack by an opportunist/casual burglar.

 

Doors and windows must be manufactured to a design that has been tested and shown to meet the security requirements of British Standards publication PAS 24 (equivalent EN standard RC2 is acceptable).

 

PAS24 is published by the BSI. PAS 24 provides a method for testing and assessing doors and windows in relation to security.

 

All ground floor and accessible doors must have suitable laminated glass with a security value of P2A or better. Windows do not require laminate glass for PAS24 but must have a locking handle.

Hi Craig,

 

Sorry for the reply 5 years after you wrote this. My inspector just refused a set of RC2 doors, where did you find out that they should accept RC2 as I cannot find anything on this? many thanks

[garrymartin]

I believe RC2 is only applicable to windows. For doors, my understanding is that it needs to be RC3.

 

https://georgebarnsdale.co.uk/blog/what-do-we-mean-by-secure-windows-and-doors/

[craig]

19 hours ago, mattgibbs said:

Hi Craig,

 

Sorry for the reply 5 years after you wrote this. My inspector just refused a set of RC2 doors, where did you find out that they should accept RC2 as I cannot find anything on this? many thanks

 

All I can say is, every BCO is different and how the interpretation of the standards is undertaken. I would say have a look at the topic here for further assistance, but as a side note, RC2 and RC3 are acceptable for entrance doors, supply the documentation and evidence available is paramount.