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Then don't

The scope of the HSE is purely to investigate employers who fall short in their duty of care to employees, visitors or members of the public directly connected with the job site. I could blow my house into the middle of next year (although not likely with a 47kg propane bottle?) The people with any interest would be the fire service, police and insurance loss adjuster. Surely you remember learning about the role of the HSE and Riddor when you completed your SMSTS?

I know DPMiller, I wasn't aiming at you, actually it was directed at those who seem to want to catastrophise and pontificate, seemingly without pausing to actually understand what the OP may be asking. I made it quite clear my post was not directed at angry, opinionated gas fitter types it was just a request for some positive advice, as most have given in good faith. ?

I was running a large commercial refurb project years ago in Chiswick when I did have a spot check from HSE, the guy was very nice, after a lovely walk round it was noted the decorating contractors spraying the concrete soffits had the wrong type of mask laying about, that was the only thing he picked up on... Anyway I very much doubt the HSE would be interested in visiting my little old house given I don't employ anyone and I'm not employed by anyone but I'll bear it in mind.

Surface mounted means... Well, mounted on the surface. maybe its different in Wales.

Thanks Joe, to be fair, I think he's OK with compression or solder as long as he can get to the joint.

Nobody suggested surface mounted. I really wish people would stop scanning posts and replying in platitudes, it doesn't help anyone.

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Read the post properly before you comment!

Thanks to all for contributing - I understand the importance of eliminating any joints within voids to prevent possible gas build up, but i'm still a little unclear on the guidelines covering 'accessibility' of compression fittings versus soldered joints. Am I right in thinking compression fittings would need to be readily visible and therefore quickly serviced in the event of a leak, but soldered joints are seen to more reliable and can be hidden behind kitchen cabinetry etc? Does 'accessible' mean at low level behind a kick plate or clipped to the front? I suspect the answer is non conclusive and depends exactly how each GS fitter decides to interpret?

Indeed, I'm actually using 25mm electrical conduit as it the OD works with the 28mm sds I'm using ?

I didn't even know you used jubilee clips on flexible pipe? ?

Cheers Peter, haha, no bbq style hose you'll be glad to hear?. I'm hard tubing all the way to the valve, I'm just using 15mm copper tube with compression fittings. All above ground. I've seen these, seems a very sensible idea

I've seen these, seems a very sensible idea

Yes, that's my understanding too, penetration will be sleeved with conduit and foamed

Nice one Joe, was the penetration into the building right behind cooker or was there a run leading up to it?

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Hi Folks, hope somebody can advise me... I've had a new freestanding dual fuel cooker delivered - gas/electric. After days of ringing around I couldn't get a gas safe registered installer interested in fitting this side of Christmas.. Although one chap did agree to certify my installation in the new year if I went ahead and installed. He said he would inspect, make any necessary mods and certify at the time of visiting. Obviously I want to minimise or eliminate entirely any remedial works. My query really centres around what is considered as 'concealed' when using compression fitting, does this simply mean hidden within the fabric of the building under floor boards or stud walls (i.e risk of gas building up in cavity) or does the term 'concealed' also include a run of pipework behind a base unit at plinth level? Any help much appreciated, and yes, I know I should be waiting for a GSR installer, but needs must. Cheers

Thanks, I needed the validation?

Hi Folks, hope all is well.. anyone got any ideas on how to detail cover flashings on a new double pitch porch abutting an existing old random stone wall? The sensible option seems to be a simple raked flashing tucked into a single saw cut, but this would deviate from standard stepped arrangement used in brickwork or uniform facing stone....any ideas would be appreciated.. BTW tiles are plain clay Cheers

No not ideal, but possible with a lot of insulation, problem is to create the voids required to insulate the correct level you'll end up making it look like a new build so a bit counter productive. It's why I dropped renewables quite quickly and stayed with oil.

Exactly, AGA/Rayburn etc. are the quintessential farmers choice for good reason, makes complete sense if the environment is right, like a working farm, but for the rest of us there is no practical argument for them at all, just a very very uneconomical fashion statement. Much cheaper to buy a couple of Spaniels and an expensive pair of Chameau wellies if you want to cultivate the country look.

https://www.fueltankshop.co.uk/heating-oil/underground-oil-tanks/c359

Hi Mike, congratulations on the new purchase, looks like a great project. I bet you had to really fight for that, given the way the market is right now?! Should be tons of period features once you strip it all back. I've looked into AGAs as well, seemed the natural lifestyle choice for the old farmhouse we are restoring, but once you look into the detail they are both horrifically expensive to purchase and to run. Some of them like Everhot based in Derby do have independently controlled electric ovens which helps, but it's literally nuts to consider any of the these on a budget. My advice would be to slot a range type cooker in that chimney breast to fill up the space and re site your current boiler somewhere more suitable, maybe even go with an insulated external enclosure. If you intend to replace the heating system as part of the refurbishment program, it might pay to consider ASHP options and make use of the renewable heating incentive which can offset some of the cost. You probably already know that this system is ideal if you can squeeze in underfloor heating in but if not viable it can still work with big bore plumbing/radiators. Oil still pretty cheap though at the moment so unless you're self building, no huge rush to renewables just yet. Cheers

I wouldn't want or have the space to go bigger than PD allowance in any case.