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Thanks for all your comments. Is it ? I can’t find it published anywhere and all Amtico were saying on the phone was it is made on a big roll and cut into 1m squares for storage then cut into planks on demand. The actual size of the image repeat was obfuscated. AI can’t tell me, although some other brands now state 50 or even 100 planks. So increasing it seems to be a trend. With a featured pattern it is definitely problematic. Amtico clearly cut in different places but don’t really seem to have a big enough master image. We are going down hall & open plan room, about 15m with no thresholds. Laying in linear style which seems to be worse. Did you have tick finish or the wood grain type finish and which plank size ?

So my LVT contractor got replacement Amtico Spacia from a different batch without the manufacturing fault which had affected 25% of the first batch. So I have borrowed 2 boxes - each box contains 27 planks. Just found the time and space to lay them out on the floor. I can clearly see that laying these is not at all straight forward. The planks seem to be cut out in a strange way, in that the same 'feature' in the wood can appear on multiple planks within a single box. The plank cut is just in a different place, so the feature might be near the end of one plank, and then in the centre of a 'different' plank. Just laying out this box as I suppose you might lay them working across by 9 planks and then on down the room, and bingo I have the same feature knot repeated 4 times within about 1 sqm. In my eyes NOT a good look. AI now suggesting to me at least 5 boxes (that is 12.5sqm or 135m planks) should be opened and mixed and dry laid to avoid this type of concentrated pattern repeat. It is still not clear to me how large an image is actually used to make the planks. But AI suggests there are roughly 24 unique plank designs - this must be roughly 2 sqm though ?!. Given the room is 35 sqm this is really rather crap. I thought I was buying luxury vinyl tile. I'd have thought it would be just as easy to manufacture from say a 10 or 20 sqm image (or set of different images) as a 2 sqm one. In a small room with less pattern variation then I guess things are easy, but we are having 50 sqm plus laid. Feeling frustrated now - why did nobody tell us about the pattern repeat problem, and why did our fitter not automatically recognise it would need to be mixed across many boxes and dry laid ? The temperatures have been too high to lay any for a week, now they may be coming down and there is this big disappointment and all the complications of arguing and dry laying. Would never have gone for this had I known the truth. See Photo. Has anybody here laid LVT over a large open plan area ? How did it work out for you ? Did you have this issue ? Were you only using something plain ?

So I'd say Beelbeebub is an AI engine, what a waste of time.

'your goals', 'the Party's goals', all for the greater good no doubt. So said every totalitarian government in history. Shifting energy costs from being paid through the electricity price to being paid from general taxation in order to suppress the price of electricity does not save money, it just transfers it. It is a con job.

The move planned to reduce electricity prices is a sham. It is simply proposed to pay some of the cost from general taxation so that the cost you APPEAR to be paying goes down on your bill. All it means is you will be paying through increased taxation, and quite possibly through somebody else's increased taxation. I am afraid that almost always whenever governments introduce price controls and subsidy arrangements it is bad news. What it does is to distort the market and behaviours no longer reflect the proper economic cost of things.

Why are you limited to 12mm, internal doors upstairs are usually wooden and can be trimmed.

Why are you running all the drains into a single IC in the middle near that bay window thing ? Couldn't you take the ICs that are coming in from each side there and just run them directly into the final IC at the bottom of the drawing. The diagonal hypotenuse of a triangle is shorter that the sum of the two sides, so would give you a bit of extra fall to play with. Just have 3 inputs into that final bottom IC/manhole. OK provided you actually know what those costs and timelines are rather than assuming they are prohibitive without actually finding out. It might be easier than you think. Also do you know what the main public sewer falls are like ? Ours has to run down the hill, and I suspect the outbound pipe from our manhole probably follows quite a big fall. Therefore rebuilding the final manhole and public sewer connection may be possible to gain some more fall without huge works.

Speaking of Visitors, if you have not yet seen 'Billy and Molly' it is a charming film on demand on 4 but only for a few more days I think. Search for Otter.

Are you certain you can't replace the old bungalow connection with something lower to get you the fall you need ? Presumably that could be possible providing the main public sewer is low enough. Also perhaps you could move the connection to the public sewer to connect lower down the slope/fall of the public sewer. Have you discussed this with your sewer utility company ? No doubt there would be cost involved but still probably small compared with your total budget and contingency. PS Have you made sure you have a good mains water connection ?

Beelbeebub - have you even read the Daily Sceptic counter article I provided a link to above ? Do you know what the point is ?

What you are doing there is criticising the language, but you seem to have nothing much to say about the numbers discussed. The author is angry because there has been a very clear effort made to mislead the public. To claim thousands of deaths from the heat based on an estimating approach which is clearly wrong is misleading. One might ask why the people claiming and getting press coverage of their 'estimate' are doing so ? Might it possibly be that they are themselves motivated to create public fear because they want the public to clamour for net zero. ? Here is the Met Office statement... https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/news-and-media/media-centre/weather-and-climate-news/2026/more-than-2700-excess-deaths-estimated-in-england-and-wales-during-may-and-june-heatwaves It is a lie. Truly the Met Office is lying to the public, publishing false statements, writing news stories which are propaganda lies. These then get picked up and circulated. What is the end result - that many people glancing at the news get told once again to be very afraid because surely soon by implication their own loved ones will be fried to death. Why is the Met Office which is a government agency with funding from our taxes putting out lies and propaganda aimed at influencing us ? They should be confining themselves to making well evidenced scientific statements of fact. Not issuing false political propaganda. It is precisely these behaviours that cause more and more people to doubt and turn away from the narrative that there is an anthropogenic climate emergency. As someone once said... If you have to be persuaded, reminded, pressured, lied to, incentivised, coerced, bullied, socially shamed, guit-tripped, threatened, punished and criminalised. If all of this is considered necessary to gain your compliance - you can be absolutely certain that what is being promoted is not in your best interest. If those organisations were interested in publishing information in a balanced way, they would of course put any numbers they give in context. Joe public hasn't got a clue how many people die each day. Is 2700 (itself a lie) a lot or a few ? But it is propaganda and giving context would reduce its impact by being honest - so that is omitted. The exact same tricks were used during covid when the BBC started publishing daily covid death figures with no context - '40 people died with covid today'. Sounds bad doesn't it - don't tell the public that 1800 people die every day. Sorry but we cannot have these organisations lying to us. I don't want my kids living in 1984 - and right now that's a bigger risk than climate variation. Can I look forward to your critique of the Met Office statement ?

All journalists, podcasters, influencers, politicians, PR people, salesmen etc use language, communication, and 'spin' techniques to appeal to and to persuade or influence an audience. Most of what we read has been angled one way or another for an audience, and newspapers typically align left or right and edit and distort their content accordingly. So what are you trying to say exactly ? That I am a child and don't understand this ? That every article in Daily Skeptic is without merit or any underlying truth because they use journalistic techniques to appeal to an audience, whereas your own (unknown and uncited) sources are never subject to the same ? That all that is necessary is to listen to 'officialdom', 'authority', and 'government' departments that always speak absolute truth whatever the consequences and never use such dirty tricks ? The underlying question is always is it true, or is it false ? So I look forward to your takedown of the facts about UK claimed heat deaths raised in that Daily Skeptic article ? Discussing your counter argument might be illuminating.

I don't doubt that there are grifters on both sides. Do you think all academics and scientists are paragons of virtue. They would never ever think of seeking grant funding from public and privately funded groups dedicated to climate emergency investigations as a nice trendy and extremely well funded source of money ? That when paid say £300k to do a study they would happily report back to their sponsor that there was no hard proof of anthropogenic CO2 driven warming, only correlated data sets that may or may not signify actual causation. They are not going to bite the hand that feeds them. You do know there are immensely wealthy individuals actively funding climate emergency advocacy groups with many £millions. In some cases funding training courses to teach journalists how to write climate propaganda pieces and get them published.

Just to reinforce the fact that people are being deliberately lied to with climate propaganda... https://dailysceptic.org/2026/07/16/no-there-werent-2700-heatwave-deaths-due-to-climate-change/ Much of the public still foolishly believe what the BBC tells them. Justin Rowlatt was out last night on the BBC with the political activist organisation called the Met Office proclaiming hottest evah again, and that we are all doomed because the AMOC/gulf stream could stop at any moment. The Met Office has been shown to be a scientifically corrupt and incompetent organisation that can't even maintain an accurate set of weather stations and publishes fraudulent data as though it were real. As for the AMOC https://dailysceptic.org/2026/07/09/fears-of-gulf-stream-collapse-fade-as-hard-data-reveal-major-role-of-natural-variation/ But there are good careers to be had in lying to the public and writing fear propaganda.

Well I am sorry for that. I don't really know anyone that thinks the UK has had competent government in the last 10-15 years. So I didn't think that one was a controversial statement. Half the country are so fed up they would probably vote for BinFace now. On the research side, there are clearly a large group of people with serious questions and concerns about the energy transition. Rejecting every concern as invalid with a wave of the hand is not very credible. If there is going to be a debate then it involves recognising when there are valid points on the other side of things. How significant they are can be discussed, but they do exist. Even some of the ''global elite'' as they get termed like Bill Gates and Tony Blair are now urging some caution. I never really care too much about the idea of winning, only about the idea of finding the right answers and the truth. I am as much of an idiot as the next man. I just wanted to inject a few things that people may not be aware of given there is a good deal of censorship that goes on. Even search engines like google have been deliberately 'fixed' to downgrade anything other than chosen political narrative. When I see a subject where free speech, and some pretty distinguished people, are being silenced and censored it sets my 'someone is hiding the truth' bells ringing. Renewables is fine, but my plea is just to recognise some of the very real issues and costs at the National scale. To go forward in a balanced way nationally rather then just seeing demons and angels. The best of our friends don't always nod along, they sometimes say are you sure your sure about that one. People here are trying to build energy efficient homes, and there is never anything wrong with that.