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vivienz

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A boring title, I know, but it's succinct and to the point.

 

I find it hard to get excited about windows, to be honest, which has surprised me given how much they cost but slogging through different window systems and deciding what's best hasn't been the most fun thing to do.  I guess one aspect that takes any joy out of the process is the lack of uniformity in windows where each company does their own thing and has their own systems which, I'm sure, are terribly important to them and they believe gives them their USPs.  From my point of view, too much choice isn't necessarily a good thing and it just makes it impossible to do a direct comparison between window companies.  But then, you all knew that already, didn't you?!  There's certainly been enough discussion about it.

 

My process for choosing the window supplier was unscientific (apologies Jeremy) and lacking in rigour (apologies everyone) but it worked for me.  I contacted 5 companies, Rationel, Ecohaus Internorm, Norrsken, Velfac and Katzenbeck.  4 replied, I never got anything back from Katzenbeck.  I sent out our planning permission drawings with floorplans and elevations and described the kind of windows I wanted.  Rationel weren't able to do what I wanted with the sliding doors on the ground floor, (a 2 part slider with mullions to make it look as though there are 4 panels) so that didn't go any further after the initial quote.  Velfac sent me a quote, but didn't quote on exactly what I'd asked for, including the sliding doors, but I sort of kept the quote in play just to get a feel for their prices.  I was a little wary of their attention to detail because I'd also specified 3G with no trickle vents and their first quote was for 2G with vents.  Hmm.  Ecohaus were outrageously expensive.  A nice product, sure, but really expensive at £65k with fitting.  That leaves me with Norrsken, and they're my final choice.

 

I've settled on Norrsken for a few reasons, not just the price although that heavily influenced me, of course.  I've got about 37m2 of triple glazing and it's coming in at about £35k, with another £8k for fitting.  So far, Norrsken have been a pleasure to deal with - not slippery or patronising in any way and very straightforward.  They also have their own in-house installation team; I can't comment on them as yet apart from saying that the installations manager came across as well as their sales guy.  I'll mention the quote from Velfac here, as it came in about £1500 less than Norrsken, but they are supply only and so I'd have to go and find an installations team that would be able to work with MBC and get the fitting right in those super thick walls.  Norrsken have worked with MBC a few times and are familiar with fitting the windows into a passive house; I'm sure that there are plenty of good installers out there but, as is often commented on here, locating them and hiring them is the tricky part.  Also, because Norrsken offer a supply and fit package, they can do this with zero VAT which means I don't have to bother with a reclaim on a hefty chunk of spending.

 

As for the windows themselves, well, they look nice, they are triple glazed, they open how I want them to and I can have them in the colours I want.  I did say it was unscientific.  No doubt I could go into far more detailed research but that lot is good enough for me.

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Latest update on the glazing costs.  I have my quote from Idealcombi and it's only about £200 cheaper than the quote from Norrsken, excluding installation.  I've had difficulty getting all the elevation plans over to them and so I haven't got figures for the glazed gable section, so I've made an assumption on these, but I don't think I'll be too far off the mark.

 

Some windows are more, some are less, but overall there's little difference between the total figures.  For the sake of the £200, I'm going to stick with Norrsken on the strength of the supply and fit package and no VAT reclaim, plus a nicer option on the internal frame finish.  Also, the tall window in the hallway that goes to the upper ceiling needs to be done in 3 pieces by Idealcombi, whereas Norrsken can do it as 2 pieces.

 

Thanks for all the help and input, everyone.  I'm sad that I couldn't get the prices down, but happy that I've done my due diligence on the glazing.

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You can now go forward knowing that you have made a choice having done the research.

That is so important for peace of mind.:)

I spent ages getting quotes & looking at all of the alternatives.

I did a lot of time going backwards & forwards between idealcombi & Velfac to get the best price, as their products are quite similar.

They just kept under cutting each other to try & secure the business.

Eventually we reached a point where they wouldn't drop anymore & I chose idealcombi as I preferred their detailing.

It was a relief to finally make a decision & feel sure I had achieved the best I could.

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