December 9, 2025Dec 9 I'm meaning from a Part P / BC point-of-view? Yeah, I realise that this is industrial spec cable rather than domestic, but this is for 24V (i.e. ELV) ffs. Max current will be 3 x 14W 5m LED strips i.e. 2A. The braid will be used for EM shielding, given that dimmer control is fairly noisy. You could have the same is it / isn't it discussion for 24 or 48V PoE over CAT5/6/6a, of course, and pretty much nobody would think that falls under Part P. Edited December 9, 2025Dec 9 by Alan Ambrose
December 9, 2025Dec 9 Part P does not in most cases stop you running 240V lighting cables, so why do you think it would stop you running low voltage ones? Don't skimp on cable size. for a given power of lighting lower voltage = higher current. Many people think they can use bell wire for low voltage wiring.
December 9, 2025Dec 9 If you’re worried about noise/interference then surely CY is the choice over SY
December 9, 2025Dec 9 3 hours ago, Alan Ambrose said: but this is for 24V (i.e. ELV) That's SELV, Safety Extra Low Voltage, old boy 3 hours ago, Alan Ambrose said: ffs What someone says when a random Welshman on the 'interweb points out that they've spelt SELV incorrectly 🤦♂️😆
December 9, 2025Dec 9 1 hour ago, Mattg4321 said: If you’re worried about noise/interference then surely CY is the choice over SY I was happy to install YY, until the merchant said they just don't sell any of it! 3-core flex it is. I just observe segregation where things like long LED strips are in the mix, so the DC runs are not bunched with equally long runs of AC stuff; unless it's a small bit of LED which doesn't really seem to ever care how you run the cable.......no complaints yet, so I'll belay starting to panic before bedtime. 2 hours ago, ProDave said: Don't skimp on cable size. for a given power of lighting lower voltage = higher current. This. Under-volt = over-current, and then the LED's are on a shorter lifespan. RIP.
December 10, 2025Dec 10 Well the regulations are quite clear. An electrical installation in a dwelling should comply with BS 7671 : 2008 (plus amendments). Said installation becomes notifiable to BC as follows: 12.—(6A) A person intending to carry out building work in relation to which Part P of Schedule 1 imposes a requirement is required to give a building notice or deposit full plans where the work consists of— (a) the installation of a new circuit; (b) the replacement of a consumer unit; or (c) any addition or alteration to existing circuits in a special location. —(9) In this regulation “special location” means— (a) within a room containing a bath or shower, the space surrounding a bath tap or shower head, where the space extends— (i) vertically from the finished floor level to— (aa) a height of 2.25 metres; or (bb) the position of the shower head where it is attached to a wall or ceiling at a point higher than 2.25 metres from that level; and (ii) horizontally— (aa) where there is a bath tub or shower tray, from the edge of the bath tub or shower tray to a distance of 0.6 metres; or (bb) where there is no bath tub or shower tray, from the centre point of the shower head where it is attached to the wall or ceiling to a distance of 1.2 metres; or (b) a room containing a swimming pool or sauna heater. So presumably if this is a new circuit then it's notifiable as even extra low voltage installations are covered (<50V ac or 120V dc).
December 10, 2025Dec 10 40 minutes ago, kandgmitchell said: So presumably if this is a new circuit then it's notifiable as even extra low voltage installations are covered (<50V ac or 120V dc). But I read the question that @Alan Ambrose wants to run the dc cables for lighting. Presumably therefore the ac wiring to the switch and to the transformer already exists. So this is not a new circuit. So he can do most of the dc wiring he wants without notification, as long as it is not not in a special location. Which is why in my original reply I said most is not notifiable.
December 10, 2025Dec 10 And I would agree - if there is no new circuit then there is no need for notification just compliance with the BS. I find that since you rarely get the entire circumstances explained in a post, it's more appropriate just to clarify the legislation and then let the poster decide if it applies to them or not.
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