What does this architectural symbol mean?

[Tony L]

43 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

That projects out almost as much as the previous detail though? Very little in it, from what my Pentium 1 brain is looking at.

 

To me they're very different, because with my design I have a neat sloped roof panel that's at 42 degrees from the highest point to where it ends, with a gutter concealed in the 42 degrees slope.

 

With the arch tec's first  draft drawing, the gutter is tacked on to a projection from the roof edge.

 

So the drawings show this:

 

[Tony L]

I'd like something like this:

 

 

[Tony L]

1 hour ago, torre said:

Looks like you could vent below your drip into the gutter as the equivalent to over fascia vent if you had a simple gutter fixed outside

 

Thanks @torre.  I don't follow what you're saying, but your comment makes me think I could have aluminium bits made up to match the roof & conceal the gutter, which would be attached to the plumb cut on the rafter feet & look something like this.

[torre]

Sorry maybe this is clearer re the vent

 

I do think your last detail is a decent compromise in terms of the look you want and being constructable. Probably quite a bit wider though to avoid overshooting

[Tony L]

11 hours ago, torre said:

I do think your last detail is a decent compromise in terms of the look you want and being constructable. Probably quite a bit wider though to avoid overshooting

 

 

Thanks, @torre.  I think attaching my gutter solution to the plumb cut rafter feet will be less costly than cutting all the rafters. I may end up with something like this.

 

[Nickfromwales]

21 hours ago, Tony L said:

 

Thanks, @torre.  I think attaching my gutter solution to the plumb cut rafter feet will be less costly than cutting all the rafters. I may end up with something like this.

 

These do look very ‘cool’. 
 

All you need is a bloody good metal roofer who can fab these kind of things in their sleep.

[Tony L]

Thanks, @Nickfromwales.  I'll let everyone know how they turn out.  Some time in 2027, I should think.

 

I'm prepared to put plenty of effort in to getting the gutters right.  I think a lot of otherwise good looking exteriors are spoiled by the gutters & downpipes.  I've got both my downpipes on the ugly side of the house, which can't be seen from the road, due to the orientation of the house & the neighbour's huge hedge.

[Gus Potter]

1 hour ago, Tony L said:

I'm prepared to put plenty of effort in to getting the gutters right. 

Good approach, your efforts will reap rewarded. 

 

It's a very tricky detail. You have to balance cleaning with over hang, how you detail out the membrane under the roof cladding, if the gutters are long do you need or not an expansion gutter detail, the fall in the gutter, often over looked! The detail might look good at the gutter high end but what about the low end? 

 

Sometimes if I'm discussing gutters in the North of Scotland, Wales where we get iced snow that can rip pretty much any gutter off, but it does not snow that much often enough to warrant snow guards, we just set the gutters a bit lower, so from time to time the rains running down the roof over shoots. Design is about achieving the best compromise at times.