Electrical socket converter question

[Mikey_1980]

Hi,

 

does anyone know if is possible to get something similar to the below, but instead of two sockets one is a switched spur and the other a normal socket?

 

https://www.screwfix.com/p/schneider-electric-converta-socket-1-gang-to-2-gang-polycarbonate/12849?tc=CA2&ds_rl=1248181&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1249481&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt4-2k-iv2AIVp7DtCh3CagB0EAQYASABEgKkdvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COC3osfor9gCFTKI7QodSwMHPw

[Onoff]

Can't think off the top of my head but how about a surface mount dual box positioned over the 1G existing?

 

[Jeremy Harris]

Have you got a single or double gang box in the wall, and is it currently wired to a ring final?

 

What you've linked to is a conversion outlet, that fits a single gang box.  Your best bet would be to fit a second single gang box alongside and use that to connect up the FCU.  A word of caution, how many spurs do you already have on that ring final?

[Mikey_1980]

Hi, its just a single gang box at the moment, which is a switched spur for a built in dishwasher. I just wanted to add a socket to run a coffee machine because it’s the most convienient location. 

 

And its in a a tiled wall which is why I was looking at the conversion plates.

Edited December 29, 2017 by Mikey_1980

[Jeremy Harris]

So, is it a spur or is in part of the ring final?  Easy way to check is whether or not there are two cables going in to it, if there are then it's part of the ring final, if they aren't then it's already a spur and you ideally need to find where that spur is fed from. 

[Onoff]

7 minutes ago, JSHarris said:

So, is it a spur or is in part of the ring final?  Easy way to check is whether or not there are two cables going in to it, if there are then it's part of the ring final, if they aren't then it's already a spur and you ideally need to find where that spur is fed from. 

 

 

Erm...two cables could just mean it's a a spur feeding a spur!

 

 

[Jeremy Harris]

Just now, Onoff said:

 

 

Erm...two cables could just mean it's a a spur feeding a spur!

 

 

 

Very true - forgot that possibility!

 

Still need to know if this is really a spur off the ring final or a separate spur taken off somewhere else, or a part of the ring final, though.  I'm not wholly comfortable giving blind suggestions without knowing where that single gang socket is currently fed from, as it may well have been added at some time when the dishwasher was fitted, and I've seen all sorts of wonderful jobs like that, including a spur fed directly from the non-switched side of a 45 A cooker switch...............

[Onoff]

AEI USED TO do what you want:

 

https://www.flameport.com/electric_museum/sockets_13A_BS1363/aei_socket_with_fused_outlet.cs4

 

I'd go surface dual pattress box carefully positioned over the old one. You can get them different depths:

 

https://www.ukelectricalsupplies.com/Click-Dual-29mm-Surface-Pattress-Box.htm?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shop&utm_campaign=feed&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt8jgovKv2AIVab7tCh1WgAB9EAQYAiABEgJF3PD_BwE

 

Then a 1G socket and separate switch. 

 

EDIT: It will be proud off the wall!!!

 

Or bite the bullet and let in a dual back box.

 

Edited December 29, 2017 by Onoff

[Mikey_1980]

Thanks all, I will have a play with a double gang box for now and see if it will work. It’s a new build flat, approximately 6 years old so the electrics are all standard nothing has been altered or played with since it’s been built.