CharlotteJ Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Hi, our structural fire wall between two dwelling (single storey) will be pink boarded both sides and continues up into the roof space, to underneath the roofing felt. Is it acceptable to cover the head of the firewall (where it would meet the roofing felt) with pink fireboard also, we will fill any joins between head of wall plasterboard and wall plasterboard with appropriate fire rated sealant. Or must I use a specific product for this? There will be additional firestop between battons and roof tiles as required. Thanks for any help given.
Nickfromwales Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Follow the details provided by your architect / SE and double-check with your BCO. If a fire is involved to the point that flames are at the ridge, then there will be nothing to save anyways, so I doubt capping that head is of any importance; unless otherwise stated by your principal designer. 1
nod Posted June 17 Posted June 17 If it’s a stud wall Don’t forget to board and seal under the sole plate 1
CharlotteJ Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 Thanks for your reply. The sole plate is being fixed to existing concrete floor so I didn't think we would need to put pink/fireboard under it? We are boarding tight to the concrete floor (on DPC) then use the fire rated mastic where the board meets the floor - same with where the stud is against the block wall - we will board tight up to the wall and then fire rated mastic between the edge of the board and the block wall. Is this acceptable in your opinion? Thanks
CharlotteJ Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 On 17/06/2025 at 20:18, nod said: If it’s a stud wall Don’t forget to board and seal under the sole plate Sorry, meant to quote your reply...... Thanks for your reply. The sole plate is being fixed to existing concrete floor so I didn't think we would need to put pink/fireboard under it? We are boarding tight to the concrete floor (on DPC) then use the fire rated mastic where the board meets the floor - same with where the stud is against the block wall - we will board tight up to the wall and then fire rated mastic between the edge of the board and the block wall. Is this acceptable in your opinion? Thanks
nod Posted June 20 Posted June 20 You do and two lines of acoustic sealant to the floor You need your stud to be a fire compartment 2
Nickfromwales Posted June 20 Posted June 20 42 minutes ago, nod said: You do and two lines of acoustic sealant to the floor You need your stud to be a fire compartment Intumescent / acoustic yes? 1
saveasteading Posted June 20 Posted June 20 (edited) In real life you don't need to seal that interface. There's no way that fire can get through a zero gap. Plus wood chars but doesn't burn, plus the concrete and plasterboard will expel water at thd board ends. But a bco doesn't know that and wants to see an industry standard drawing and the same built. So use beads of intumescent mastic at the ends. Where it meets the roofing felt, what happens? Felt burns and drips flame. Then is there any board? The fire can jump next-door. I think you need to fireboard the soffit for a metre on both sides. But I havent checked the document. Edited June 20 by saveasteading 2
CharlotteJ Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 33 minutes ago, saveasteading said: In real life you don't need to seal that interface. There's no way that fire can get through a zero gap. Plus wood chars but doesn't burn, plus the concrete and plasterboard will expel water at thd board ends. But a bco doesn't know that and wants to see an industry standard drawing and the same built. So use beads of intumescent mastic at the ends. Where it meets the roofing felt, what happens? Felt burns and drips flame. Then is there any board? The fire can jump next-door. I think you need to fireboard the soffit for a metre on both sides. But I havent checked the document. We've been recommended Sikacryl®-620 Fire to seal the joints where the plasterboard meet and along edge where board meets concrete floor or block wall. Wood wall plate is covered with pink board and extended each side. We've pink board directly beneath the felt, which meets the top of the fire wall and again, joints sealed. I will check the plan for the soffit. Thanks so much 1
nod Posted June 20 Posted June 20 4 hours ago, saveasteading said: In real life you don't need to seal that interface. There's no way that fire can get through a zero gap. Plus wood chars but doesn't burn, plus the concrete and plasterboard will expel water at thd board ends. But a bco doesn't know that and wants to see an industry standard drawing and the same built. So use beads of intumescent mastic at the ends. Where it meets the roofing felt, what happens? Felt burns and drips flame. Then is there any board? The fire can jump next-door. I think you need to fireboard the soffit for a metre on both sides. But I havent checked the document. and how many firewalls have you installed In real life
saveasteading Posted June 21 Posted June 21 16 hours ago, nod said: how many firewalls have you installed In real life Probably about ...I don't know. Guess 300? 2.2m high min, to 8m max. Mostly me drawing or standing watching, and seldom wielding the stanley knife. I'm maybe missing your point. What I mean is that a fire would not spread under that even without intumescent mastic. I guess a really poor sole-plate fitting where you could see light through, might be a slight risk IF the blaze was intense and there was pressure forcing air through and a floor level fuel source. I've been informed that tests show that a 3mm gap between plasterboards onto stud, does not create any risk. But if there is sealer, for a few more £, then everyone is happy. 1
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