Help….are my plans to scale?!

[Chrisbradbury]

Hello,

 

I’ve come here looking for help in relation to my plans, specifically site plans.

 

My architect has drawn the site plans 1:500 based on A4 which I have attached. I have printed them out and measured with a ruler and they seem not far off, but I believe my printer may have resized.

 

Planning at my local council have stated that they are incorrect and have attached a screen shot detailing this.

 

At the moment I’m stuck between the architect who says they are correct and my council who have now refused three times stating they are not to scale….who is right?

 

any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

thank you

maps-EXISTING%2520BLOCK%2520PLAN.pdf

[Gus Potter]

29 minutes ago, Chrisbradbury said:

My architect has drawn the site plans 1:500 based on A4 which I have attached. I have printed them out and measured with a ruler and they seem not far off, but I believe my printer may have resized.

Ok what I do is this.

 

I issue a pdf drawing with a scale bar. I put a numerical dimension on the drawing. This means that you can check to see if the scale bar matches with the drawing dimension. That verifies the drawing dimensions no matter how you print it on paper or look at it in pdf format if you are working from home as planner.

 

I suspect your planner is kicking the can down the road and that is why I put on my site plan a reference dimension that they can check the scale bar against to head them off at the pass. But I round off the dimension to 100mm.. so I'll say 6.1m approx.

 

Now the main reason for the rounding.. it is to do with the legal site boundary. I need to be really careful not to establish the legal site boundary by default as I could expose my Client to a property boundary risk.

 

Edited March 29 by Gus Potter

[IanR]

While the Plan you attached is "to scale", it's incorrectly called out as an A4 sheet size.

 

Image below shows in the bottom right hand corner that I have set the scale in Acrobat as per drawing 1:500. Units are mm

 

The 50m scale on the drawing measures 49,920.09mm 

 

 

 

 

 

However, the above is directly off the digital file. If you do as the drawing states and Print to A4 it won't be to that scale since the sheet size is actually 594 x 841 (A1) not 210 x 297 (A4), as defined in the file's properties:

 

So, while your Architect has made a mistake, the Council are being a little picky. All dimensions they require are called out on the drawing. They don't need to "scale" anything.

Edited March 29 by IanR

[Chrisbradbury]

Thank you both. Ian, I really appreciate this. So the architect just needs export to A4 as opposed to A1.

 

ive been going back and forth not getting anywhere but this really helps!

 

[Gus Potter]

1 hour ago, IanR said:

While the Plan you attached is "to scale", it's incorrectly called out as an A4 sheet size.

Correct from Ian. In the title box you need to say the drawing is this paper size if electronic submission.

 

1 hour ago, Chrisbradbury said:

I’ve come here looking for help in relation to my plans, specifically site plans.

The planners are yanking your chain to kick the can down the road. You kind of need to suck it up and move on.

[Mjb]

I've had this same problem twice in last 12 months. Drawings I submitted as pdf's were rejected for not being to scale (they had scale bars and dimensions). The easy solution was to take the A4 prints into the council, where they scanned them into their system and they magically become acceptable.