German kitchen brands - Nobilia, Bauformat or Leicht?

[Indy]

7 hours ago, Pocster said:

Not heard of that … sounds cool and expensive though !

Yeah - nothing in materials and I don't have the exact breakdown, but adds about £500/slab in labour to achieve that finish. I wasn't aware that it existed until we saw it in a showroom in a very run down area. 

[MikeSharp01]

8 hours ago, Pocster said:

What I did with all the appliances is get the seller to offer them all too me for free .

So if you have 5k of appliances + vat but can’t claim the vat as it’s not allowed on them .

Get the seller to add ‘free’ appliances . But increase the total cost by 5k+vat . Then you can claim the vat as technically the appliances were free .

I thought the fitted appliances where VAT allowable - have I got that wrong?

[Pocster]

Just now, MikeSharp01 said:

I thought the fitted appliances where VAT allowable - have I got that wrong?

Oh ! Not heard of that ! What defines ‘fitted ‘ ?????

[Indy]

From what I've been told - a freestanding appliance is not eligible for zero VAT. So an American style freestanding fridge/freezer would not qualify but integrated appliances would as they are 'built into the fabric' rather than just unplug and take it away types. 

Edited February 16 by Indy

[Pocster]

11 minutes ago, Indy said:

From what I've been told - a freestanding appliance is not eligible for zero VAT. So an American style freestanding fridge/freezer would not qualify but integrated appliances would as they are 'built into the fabric' rather than just unplug and take it away types. 

I thought for example an oven isn’t eligible because it can be literally plug in and take away . Also I thought hobs weren’t but extractors were ( sometime ago so may have that wrong )

[Susie]

VAT

A hob with a built in extractor in the hob is allowable, a hob only is not allowable, an extractor is allowable.

an oven, washing machine, dryer etc not allowable 

an Aga type oven if it also heats water is allowable 

Having a plug or being hardwired doesn’t change anything.

 

The whole ‘what is allowable?’ Can be looked up in the VAT guide.

I wouldn’t rely on any logic.

 

 

[Pocster]

10 hours ago, Susie said:

VAT

A hob with a built in extractor in the hob is allowable, a hob only is not allowable, an extractor is allowable.

an oven, washing machine, dryer etc not allowable 

an Aga type oven if it also heats water is allowable 

Having a plug or being hardwired doesn’t change anything.

 

The whole ‘what is allowable?’ Can be looked up in the VAT guide.

I wouldn’t rely on any logic.

 

 

Therefore @Indy get those not allowables ‘free’ with the kitchen …

[Kelvin]

We used DiY online kitchens for the utility room and a Scottish based company for the main kitchen who manufacture the kitchens in Scotland (although they also do a German brand) There’s a definite quality difference between the DiY online kitchen and our main kitchen but it’s still pretty good. There was a problem with the finish on two of the doors which they replaced really quickly. 
 

We had a few difficult install problems with our main kitchen but because they built their own units it was easy enough to fix other than the delay. We did get a quote for a handmade kitchen and it was a similar price. Our main kitchen was £27k fitted including stone worktop, Quooker, sink, and all appliances. The DiY online kitchen was £2500 including a solid oak worktop, sink and taps. I fitted the utility room kitchen and the main kitchen supplier fitted that.