artificial intelligence Getting AI to design a path but resources are limited: NotebookLm and DeepSeek to the rescue?

[ToughButterCup]

I'm trying to work out how best to build a path with insufficient paving stones to cover the desired area ( 10 sq meters) . My daughter's partner ( a builder ) would be able to do it without much thinking - because he's experienced, and an all-round nice guy. The only thing I'm experienced in is getting-it-wrong-first-time.

 

Lets give AI a go at solving the problem

 

Process

I fed each AI with a data sheet - each paviour was identified with a number and its dimensions 

The total maximum area that could be covered is 6.11 sq meters

The AI was asked to derive a pleasing pattern within an area 10 meters by 1 meter

 

Problem Statement

 

I have about 6 square meters of York Stone. And 10 square meters of path to cover

Design a visually pleasing pattern of paviour layout to stretch across the 10 square meters of path. (to the left of the red smudge in the image below)

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NotebookLMs response

 

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Okay, let's determine the area that would need to be covered by other materials on the 10-square-meter path, based on the information in the sources and our conversation history.

Total Path Area: The path has a total area of 10 square meters [not from source].

Total Pavier Area: The total area of the 21 paviers is 6.111 square meters [1].

Area to be Covered by Other Materials: To find the area that would need to be covered by other materials, we subtract the total area of the paviers from the total area of the path:
10 square meters - 6.111 square meters = 3.889 square meters

Layout Considerations
Central Feature: If the paviers were laid in a central strip, as discussed in our previous conversation, they would occupy just over 6 meters of the 10-meter path, leaving about 4 meters uncovered. Because the path is 1 meter wide, this would be equivalent to 3.889 square meters.

Random or Repeating Pattern: The paviers could be laid in a random or repeating pattern, with gaps filled using other materials [based on our previous conversation]. The area of the gaps will still equal 3.889 square meters because the total area of the paviers does not change regardless of the layout.

Gaps: There would also be gaps between the paviers if you decided to space them apart with 10mm gaps, but this would not change the amount of area that the paviers covered. The gaps would be between the paviers and would need to be filled.

Practical Considerations: Because the paviers cannot cover the full area of the path, you will need to use other materials to fill the remaining area, no matter the configuration of the paviers.
In summary, the area that would need to be covered by other materials on the 10-square-meter path is 3.889 square meters. This is the difference between the total area of the path and the total area of the paviers.

 

 

DeepSeek's response

 

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Example Layout

Here’s how you could arrange the paviours:

 

Start with the largest paviours:

Place the 910 by 570 (0.518 m²) and 800 by 580 (0.464 m²) paviours in the center of the path.

 

Surround them with medium-sized paviours like 690 by 440 (0.303 m²), 700 by 470 (0.329 m²), and 600 by 610 (0.366 m²).

 

Fill in gaps with smaller paviours:

Use the 350 by 400 (0.14 m²), 460 by 350 (0.161 m²), and 540 by 440 (0.237 m²) paviours to fill in edges or create a border.

 

Create a pattern:

Alternate the orientation of the paviours (e.g., horizontal and vertical) to create a dynamic look.

Use the 600 by 500 (0.3 m²) and 620 by 500 (0.31 m²) paviours to create a consistent rhythm in the pattern.

 

Final Notes
Since you don’t have enough paviours to cover the full 10 m², you can either:

Build a shorter path (6.111 meters long and 1 meter wide).

Reduce the width of the path (e.g., 0.8 meters wide) to extend the length while staying within the available area.

Consider adding gravel or decorative stones to fill any small gaps or edges for a polished finish.

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Now, I dunno about you, but DeeSeek appears to me to be the most helpful because it offers me a simple recipe to follow.

I can now go and lay that out in our yard and see if SWMBO likes it. 

Edited Wednesday at 11:50 by ToughButterCup

[Bancroft]

I'm far from being an AI guru and have yet to actually try DeepSeek but it does look interesting.

 

I particularly like the way it gives you an insight into how it is 'thinking'.  Most of the others just splurge out an answer.

[Pocster]

1 hour ago, ToughButterCup said:

I'm trying to work out how best to build a path with insufficient paving stones to cover the desired area ( 10 sq meters) . My daughter's partner ( a builder ) would be able to do it without much thinking - because he's experienced, and an all-round nice guy. The only thing I'm experienced in is getting-it-wrong-first-time.

 

Lets give AI a go at solving the problem

 

Process

I fed each AI with a data sheet - each paviour was identified with a number and its dimensions 

The total maximum area that could be covered is 6.11 sq meters

The AI was asked to derive a pleasing pattern within an area 10 meters by 1 meter

 

Problem Statement

 

I have about 6 square meters of York Stone. And 10 square meters of path to cover

Design a visually pleasing pattern of paviour layout to stretch across the 10 square meters of path. (to the left of the red smudge in the image below)

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NotebookLMs response

 

 

 

DeepSeek's response

 

 

Now, I dunno about you, but DeeSeek appears to me to be the most helpful because it offers me a simple recipe to follow.

I can now go and lay that out in our yard and see if SWMBO likes it. 

Yeah but now China knows what you are doing ! . This is how they will dominate our world !! arranging our paving is the thin end of a big wedge 

[SteamyTea]

1 hour ago, Pocster said:

arranging our paving is the thin end of a big wedge

Did DeepSeek actually say you need a wedge to lay paving?

[Pocster]

Just now, SteamyTea said:

Did DeepSeek actually say you need a wedge to lay paving?

No , PocsterAI did 

[ToughButterCup]

3 hours ago, Pocster said:

... arranging our paving is the thin end of a big wedge 

 

The Wedgie that Trump has already shoved into Zuckerberg's et al's underpants is there for all to see.