inderpal Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 people I need some advice so I had new upvc windows fitted in my entire house. I have large curved bay window downstairs living room and upstairs bedroom . My old windows were aluminium and had a wooden frame on the edges . So I had my windows fitted and I noticed on both bay windows on the ends there was a gap of a inch between window and brick I have attached an image . When I question the company the owner said this is normal as when measuring he would have not know how much brick behind the wooden frame on the old windows on the edges . Is this correct ? Since having these windows installed alot of noise issues and cold ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Quite normal for a window company to underside, but what have they done for fixings? Also, often the head of the opening used the window millions and frames for structural support, so I wonder if the opening is suitable to take this simple swap. Worth checking, particularly with curved bays. One way these are otherwise supported is if the floor joists from upstairs project outboard to take the weight of the above elevation/bay. Can you take a pic showing the front and head of the opening? To seal up, if they’ve fixed them robustly, you would want a continuous bead of Illbruck 330 foam Link (NOT regular builders foam) which will reduce noise and draft to an acceptable level, and then uPVC ‘makeup’ usually gets set in place to make things pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 I can see a concrete screw, but no packers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGrahamT21 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 They should have had an add on uPVC profile when they realised they were short, unfortunately that would now mean a deinstall and reinstall. As Nick says though it can be sorted with correct foam and PVC trims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inderpal Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 Nick from Wales should there be packers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 7 minutes ago, inderpal said: Nick from Wales should there be packers? You’re god-damned right there should be!!! Theres zero stopping the frames from moving. Open the window and push it to see for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 The usual bodge is to fit undersize windows, not put any foam in at all, then cover the gaps with plastic trim. Ask me how I know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inderpal Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 I will send pics as requested ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inderpal Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 1 minute ago, Onoff said: The usual bodge is to fit undersize windows, not put any foam in at all, then cover the gaps with plastic trim. Ask me how I know! I know it's a Mick take . They did foam it all properly but should have added pvc extenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Sadly not too far from the truth: White Gold https://g.co/kgs/JKZoPv5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inderpal Posted Wednesday at 23:33 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 23:33 Hi people so he came over the owner. He said one inch gap is acceptable . He said for him to change the end frame he will have to take the entire window out. I thought he could just remove the end frame which is screwed in to the metal support pole and wall ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago (edited) I have a particular dislike for most window firms and their fitters. They deliberately under measure so they can get in and out as quick as. They do not want to be getting the grinder out and making the hole bigger. This from experience. My windows have similar issues. Mitre bonded ("super glued") trim covering similar gaps. This is my lounge window at the top, the foam is Illbrück FM330 where I've started to address the gaps. With the glued on plastic trim removed to reveal huge gaps: One of my old windows where I chipped off the render to exactly measure the old frame: The new window went in with like a 5mm gap from memory: Inside there's no massive gap. Not great that all my windows are flush with the outer skin. For the most part there are no cavity closers either. Edited 19 hours ago by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGrahamT21 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago I’m not sure if this will help your case any? https://www.labcwarranty.co.uk/technical-blog/gaps-around-windows-sealants-and-finishing-trims assuming you are expecting a FENSA certificate, it may be worth speaking to them about it to see if they have any rules to be adhered to by the fitters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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