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Our floor joist designer has asked for the point load for a set of stairs where they attach to the landing, for calculating the engineered trimmer. This landing corner floats where the stairs attach and the joists cantilever over another wall to provide the landing so I assume the flooring engineer needs the load to ensure the joists are sufficiently strapped down. 
 

We are going to use Stairbox for our stairs - who tell us that they are self supporting and only need attaching at the bottom and top (no drilling through stringers needed). 
 

I asked Stairbox if they can provide the point load but they said they don’t provide this. 
 

I asked our structural engineer who said he can calculate it but needs the self weight of the stairs - is that just the total weight of the stairs or something else?

 

Has anyone had any experience getting any of this info from Stairbox? Currently I have a conversation with ‘sales’ and am wondering if there’s more technical Support that can give better answers to engineering or structural questions?

 

 

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>>> self weight of the stairs - is that just the total weight of the stairs or something else?

 

Yes, including balustrades etc. Your SE will then allow for suitable 'live' loads (e.g. all your guests at a party standing and admiring your build) - actually the number is probably specced in the regs somewhere. Then they'll calc the loads to be supported at the top and bottom.

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1 hour ago, Mr Punter said:

If you add your stair to the basket in stairbox it will show the weight.  I had 2 flights, 1 was 150kg, the other was 200kg.  They were commercial spec.

Thanks @Mr Punter just seen this! That’s great. 
 

out of interest, what is ‘commercial spec’?

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1 hour ago, SBMS said:

Thanks @Mr Punter just seen this! That’s great. 
 

out of interest, what is ‘commercial spec’?

 

These were communal stairs for flats, so 250mm going per tread and lower pitch.  We also used chunkier materials to hopefully mitigate noise.

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31 minutes ago, Mr Punter said:

 

These were communal stairs for flats, so 250mm going per tread and lower pitch.  We also used chunkier materials to hopefully mitigate noise.

I get you. How do you specify chunkier materials with Stairbox or was this just their standard 32mm pine?

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2 minutes ago, Mr Punter said:

Yes 32mm treads.  No MDF.  They are well made.

Thanks @Mr Punter  am I right in thinking they’re self supporting? No need to secure anywhere other than at the top and bottom and not through the stringers? This is for a set that goes from the first to second floor so don’t bear onto the floor and just connect

to the floor trimmers. 

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