Do I Need A Full Application For Increasing Roof Heights ~500mm For A Development With ~8M Roof Height

[EnglishFlynn]

Hi everyone, Ive got a plot that has permission granted for 2009 that has a material start so its sill valid.

Were wanting to increase the roof height by ~500mm on plans that already have a finished roof height of ~8m.

Does anyone know whether id need a new full application or whether i could amend current plans to push the roof height up, architect is quoting £5-7K for a new full planning app.

Based in south west if that makes any difference

Many thanks

[Gus Potter]

Write to the planners and ask them.. Did they do a "report of handling" that identifies the material considerations when granting the current permission? Lucky for you you have made a material start!

 

First though why does your Architect think it needs a fresh application rather than an amendment?

[DevilDamo]

Assuming this relates to a new build with an overall height of 8m, then the additional 500mm would require a Variation of Condition (Section 73) application.

Edited October 4 by DevilDamo

[EnglishFlynn]

11 hours ago, Gus Potter said:

Write to the planners and ask them.. Did they do a "report of handling" that identifies the material considerations when granting the current permission? Lucky for you you have made a material start!

 

First though why does your Architect think it needs a fresh application rather than an amendment?

'Hi, I think altering the roof heights would require a full app rather than a variation - did the planning consultant suggest a variation app' 

As the initial plans were hand drawn theyre recommending a full redraw and have quoted a bunch of money for what seems like a relatively small change.

Ive just emailed the local planning office so will await a response,  as for the 'report of handling' i have looked through the planning application and everything i can see suggests the roof height has never been a major factor and all the surrounding buildings are taller. Hopefully the planning office will get back to me and give a formal, informal decision haha

Many thanks for your input too!

[EnglishFlynn]

4 hours ago, DevilDamo said:

Assuming this relates to a new build with an overall height of 8m, then the additional 500mm would require a Variation of Condition (Section 73) application.

Just emailed them with the subject title 

'Inquiry Regarding Variation of Condition (Section 73) Application'

 

So hopefully we will see. Thanks for your response!

 

[Alan Ambrose]

Hope that goes well and a fit of common sense breaks out at the LPA.

 

I assume you don't have CIL there? Beware of submitting another full application if you do - it may well be very costly.

[EnglishFlynn]

22 hours ago, Alan Ambrose said:

Hope that goes well and a fit of common sense breaks out at the LPA.

 

I assume you don't have CIL there? Beware of submitting another full application if you do - it may well be very costly.

We do have CIL on anything over 10 units, if we reapply, itll be for 8 so hopefully no issues haha

Very worse case we have the initial application to fall back on though!

[Alan Ambrose]

I might have been clearer - there’s a gotcha on self-build exemption of CIL on a 2nd application. If you’re building a bunch of units then self-build won’t apply.