New member & telecoms issue

[PAlex]

Hi, I'm new to this site and hoping to gleam some knowledge for some up and coming diy projects

 

Firstly I have moved into a new house 3 months ago and currently retro fitting an outbuilding space for a new office space in rural mid Wales

The property has fibre broadband which comes in direct to the house but not to the soon to be new office space which is 300 ft away from the house

I am looking at options of the best way to get it over to this space but ideally I would like to have a direct ethernet connection although at my previous place I had a router and plug in boosters but they would drop out often. The thick walls of the house mean that the wireless won't carry from the house to the new space so I could potentially move the EE hub closer to the office space within the house so that it picks up the signal. It could be that this is something that BT Open reach will have to deal with but they are currently only dealing with essential call outs under the lockdown

Any thoughts and ideas very welcome

Thanks

Paul

 

[KNeil]

Could you not just put in an RJ45 socket at either end, plug  1 lead from incoming router into one end and a 4 port switch into the other? close to max length but I have done this in the past, where issues arise is normally down to the supplied router being aimed at the Wi-Fi market so fixed line can be throttled by your suppliers firmware

[PAlex]

Thanks for this ... I am a complete beginner so had to look up sockets, switches etc. but that sounds like it might work. Could I simply run a Cat5e cable with an ethernet connector from the back of the EE hub out to the office and use the RJ45 socket or 4 port switch at this end ?

[PeterW]

300ft is a long way for a CAT5 cable, I would put a CAT6 external cable all the way and then hard connections at either end (ie patch boxes) and then use a short cable to connect to the supplier router.

 

Other option if you have line of sight is a Unifi DMA or similar directional antenna but I would start with the external CAT6 cable

[Bitpipe]

10 minutes ago, PAlex said:

Thanks for this ... I am a complete beginner so had to look up sockets, switches etc. but that sounds like it might work. Could I simply run a Cat5e cable with an ethernet connector from the back of the EE hub out to the office and use the RJ45 socket or 4 port switch at this end ?

 

Yep, that's what is being proposed. 100m is the specified max run end to end for cat5e (and Cat 6 by the looks of it). Not that  expensive -  https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009U810UW

 

You'll need to consider how to protect the cable from accidental damage though, would not take much of a knock to short the internal pairs. If it's 300m point to point, this does not give you a lot of wriggle room for ducting etc. 

Edited May 19, 2020 by Bitpipe

[Carrerahill]

1 hour ago, PAlex said:

Hi, I'm new to this site and hoping to gleam some knowledge for some up and coming diy projects

 

Firstly I have moved into a new house 3 months ago and currently retro fitting an outbuilding space for a new office space in rural mid Wales

The property has fibre broadband which comes in direct to the house but not to the soon to be new office space which is 300 ft away from the house

I am looking at options of the best way to get it over to this space but ideally I would like to have a direct ethernet connection although at my previous place I had a router and plug in boosters but they would drop out often. The thick walls of the house mean that the wireless won't carry from the house to the new space so I could potentially move the EE hub closer to the office space within the house so that it picks up the signal. It could be that this is something that BT Open reach will have to deal with but they are currently only dealing with essential call outs under the lockdown

Any thoughts and ideas very welcome

Thanks

Paul

 

Just run in a piece of CAT5e/6. 

 

5e is limited to 328' to mainatain top speed so you are sorted.

 

Ethernet is the only surefire connection. I am wired in my house and never have issues, with more and more wireless gadgets WiFi is just becoming a pest. 

[Carrerahill]

16 minutes ago, PAlex said:

Thanks for this ... I am a complete beginner so had to look up sockets, switches etc. but that sounds like it might work. Could I simply run a Cat5e cable with an ethernet connector from the back of the EE hub out to the office and use the RJ45 socket or 4 port switch at this end ?

Yes.

[PeterW]

This stuff is external rated and full copper

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/kenable-External-Outdoor-Ethernet-Network/dp/B007VCVODC

[Carrerahill]

Just as a little anecdote about this sort of thing. About 20 years ago I ran an Ethernet cable between two houses via a telegraph pole electrical taped it to the CW1128 BT cable! The run was about 125m plug to plug. It aways maintained a full speed link without issue or a high rate of packet drop.

 

We used bog standard cheap cable and it's still there, no physical degradation or even signs of UV damage.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 19, 2020 by Carrerahill

[PAlex]

Thanks so much for all the advice ... sounds like the Cat6 cable is the way to go and the RJ45 socket