H F Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 One our lamps fell to the ground courtesy of our kitten. I purchased a replacement connector today but there doesn’t seem to be a screw to connect the wires to it. Our old one had screws. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 This is the old connector on the lamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Looks like a push fit connection to me, rather like a Wago. You just push the wires in the holes and they lock in tightly with a spring contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, Jeremy Harris said: Looks like a push fit connection to me, rather like a Wago. You just push the wires in the holes and they lock in tightly with a spring contact. Thanks Jeremy. I’ll try it first thing tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 IMPORTANT TIP: Some light fittings like that, you can only assemble ONCE. The back cover clips onto the actual lamp holder and it WILL NOT unscrew or otherwise detach. DO NOT think about trying to fit the cover until the cable is connected. Of course you know how I know that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Brilliant tip Dave. Thanks for sharing your actual experience. Invaluable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 It looks like a clipper/inner. the socket isn’t marked neutral or live. Does it make a difference which sides the wires go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Ie. Is the flat one live and the upright one neutral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Home Farm said: It looks like a clipper/inner. the socket isn’t marked neutral or live. Does it make a difference which sides the wires go in? 19 minutes ago, Home Farm said: Ie. Is the flat one live and the upright one neutral? Yes, it is critical that this is connected the right way around. The line connection is to the base "pin" of the E27 fitting, the neutral has to go to the part that connects to the outer threaded bit where the lamp screws in. If this was a bayonet fitting, then the polarity doesn't matter, as either of the pins in the base can be line or neutral. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Thanks Jeremy. So neutral (blue) goes to the upright bit and the live (brown) goes to the flat connector. Is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Photo to go with above post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The brass coloured bit with the hole in the end is the line, the silver coloured bit that contacts the side of the lamp with the thread is the neutral. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Brilliant. Glad I asked because I was going to do it the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just for info, although the lamp socket you have seems to be safer than many, one major flaw in the design of E27 ("Edison") screw base lamps is that it may be possible to touch the threaded part of the lamp whilst unscrewing it. If this is connected to line, then it will be at 230 V if the power is on (and with some types of light switch it can be hard to determine on and off if a lamp blows). With the screw part connected to neutral, it will be at, or very close to, earth potential, so the risk of an inadvertent shock is a great deal lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Success. Thank you. On a semi related note, there’s a little screw in the light connector cavity. Just curious what the purpose of this screw is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hmmm. The new attachment is wobbling in the cavity. Will the nut in the above image come out so I can use it to “clamp” the new piece in? when I turn the nut, it swivels the whole screw underneath too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hard to be sure, but the screw looks as if it is to lock the nut in place. So I'd be inclined to loosen the screw, and try to tighten the nut, and then, once it's tight, tighten the screw to lock the nut in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just thought I’d drill a small hole in the bottom holding cap, and will take me the screw to hold that in place. Might just work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H F Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 The nut came off. It was the classic righty loosy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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