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I bet I'll end up putting one in and find out it never gets used!

I was thinking of something that microwaves + bakes like an oven Thanks for all the responses! It seems like plenty of you like them there are some dud models out there which don't microwave so well the interfaces can be complicated as they can do more things / bad design We rent at the moment and I'm renovating a place for rental to someone else (its too fancy for us!). We've become so used to our dodgy rented kitchen that I don't know what's normal anymore! Doesn't everyone want a freestanding solid plate electric cooker with gaps where all the bits of food fall down the side ? I like the idea of a big single oven and separate microwave integrated into a tall unit to save on countertop space and so you don't have to bend down. I wondered, for higher end place, if more oven space would be expected hence my interest the microwave + grill / bake option. I guess it would be fine with a normal microwave if the overall kitchen is done nicely.

Does anyone have a combi microwave oven? are they any good? I guess if you have a single oven, you could have a combi microwave oven it above which would give you a bit more room to bake if you are doing a bigger meal.

It did get too long! I'll break it up a bit. Thanks

Hi all I was wondering what you thought of the kitchen I've roughed up in sketchup? House Plans https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AeXM0u1GiNB9gjbxZ1WcSR_i4F3I_FOb?usp=sharing The room doesn’t have loads of usable space because of the fireplace and doorways. I'm nervous about a kitchen island taking up too much space as the room is quite narrow. It's for higher end rental for at least the next 5 years and is about 1 hour from London by train. We're new to all of this! Its an old family home. We might replace the panelling with white plaster and move the door near all the junk to the left to make more room for a table. Not sure about this yet. # Basic Description L Shape layout? black granite worktop light coloured base units, no cupboards (mainly deep drawers, corner pull outs etc) with handles (not handless) White metro tile splashback? restored oak floor finished with treatex (see examples of what I think the colours might be like attached) ventilated induction hob ducted outside behind cabinets (or below?) Tall integrated fridge Integrated dishwasher Single oven? Combi microwave oven? Positioning the table is a bit awkward. I will have to try some cardboard aided design to reassure myself I think. Anything obviously bad? What are some good things to have in a kitchen? I thought the freezer and extra food storage could go in the pantry / utility room nearby. Could a kitchen trolley thing be good? https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/cat/trolleys-fu005/ I want to use our own kitchen installer. He doesn’t mind where we get the kitchen units but will happily do howdens as that’s what he’s used to. I was planning to use one of the cheapest from the Which’s best kitchens below, probably supplying my own appliances. We will need a seperate granite worktop installer. Which magazine best suppliers (weight stress testing cabinet drawers, shelves and customer surveys). Ikea Enhet Magnet Factory Assembled Magnet iD3 Homebase Flatpack Howdens Joinery Rigid Cabinet Homebase Country Living John Lewis Cam & Dowel John Lewis Glue & Dowel Wren Infinity Wren Infinity Plus Howdens Handleless Magnet Simply Ready to Assemble Ikea Metod I am tempted by ikea because they seem simple and upfront with their pricing or someone else (e.g. magnet) and get it assembled. The kitchen installer said he can handle the fact IKEA don’t have rear service voids. Out of interest, which magazine’s worst kitchens Wren Vogue DIY Kitchens Innova Wickes Showroom Benchmarx Ready to Fit Wickes Ready to Fit Let me know what you think. I was planning cheap cabinets, good worktop to make it all look good.

Hi all Thanks so much for all the information and help everyone puts up here. We've been doing up our farmhouse (see link). https://i.postimg.cc/sDy8bZ4s/img1.jpg We're not self build so I'm not sure If I should be posting here (!) but we are entirely new to property development. The current plan is to rent out the place. It is part of our old farm.

Hi Neil If possible, I would also recommend a local planning consultant with a proven track record due to the variation in how the specifics of Class Q are interpreted by LPAs. I've been advised, for instance, that our LPA doesn't really care for any fall back arguments, despite many other LPA's considering them. You may find Martin Goodall's blog useful if you haven't seen it already. example article https://planninglawblog.blogspot.com/2021/05/partial-demolition-in-advance-of.html site search for class q https://planninglawblog.blogspot.com/search?q=class+q

Thanks! WOW. Red snakeskin shower anyone? I really like the variety. They use a backing tape and silicone as a joint system: https://trade.recosurfaces.com/technical-specifications/installation/ Simon R: have you used them?

If there are any errors, there is an editable copy here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IkK2uvOXl0zbd-WHifW3As6RtcgJHjy1pn2QS-DO1Xg/edit?usp=sharing I like the look of these because I think I err of the side of plywood, perhaps unfairly: primary retailer URL price (£ per sq m) guarantee materials selkie rearo.co.uk £44.36 10 years 11mm laminate Water and Boil Proof (WBP) 9mm Plywood or moisture resistant (MR) MDF splashwall (wetwall, wilsonart) wetwall.co.uk £45.14 10 years 11mm (9mm MR MDF Core + laminate) multipanel multipanel.co.uk/ £60.76 30 years Linda Barker, Heritage, Classic, Neutrals: 11mm, laminate face and water resistant hardwood plywood core fibo fibo.co.uk £72.22 25 years all panels: laminate front, 9mm birch plywood core, "moisture barrier" rear

wilsonart make them it looks like

sorted by price - I haven't checked for mistakes! primary retailer / maker URL price (£ per sq m) guarantee low visibility jointing materials sources versa tile rearo.co.uk £16.99 10 years no versa tile: 3mm, layers of resin dipped of paper fibre https://rearo.co.uk/ anacona rearo.co.uk £17.69 1 year yes 10mm PVC (vertical cuboid hollowcore?) Aquatech showerenclosuresuk.com £22.71 no Aquatech: 10mm PVC (vertical cuboid hollowcore?) showerenclosuresuk.com IPSL interiorpanelsystems.co.uk £33.33 10 years no Proclad Solid Colour: 2.5mm Solid uPVC https://www.interiorpanelsystems.co.uk/ IPSL interiorpanelsystems.co.uk £37.50 10 years no Aquabord Laminate: 10mm Solid w/ Foam Core https://www.interiorpanelsystems.co.uk/ multipanel multipanel.co.uk £38.19 1 year no The Tile Collection: 3mm solid grade laminate panels https://www.multipanel.co.uk panelstyle panelstyle.co.uk £38.28 5 years Splash Panel hollow core 10mm proplas 8mm Cellular PVC Aquaglass showerenclosuresuk.com £39.58 yes Aquaglass: 10mm PVC (vertical cuboid hollowcore?) showerenclosuresuk.com multipanel multipanel.co.uk £39.58 1 year yes economy: 10mm rigid PVC with a decorative face. https://www.multipanel.co.uk selkie rearo.co.uk £44.36 10 years yes selkie: 11mm laminate Water and Boil Proof (WBP) 9mm Plywood or moisture resistant (MR) MDF https://rearo.co.uk/ splashwall (wetwall, wilsonart) https://wetwall.co.uk/ £45.14 10 years 11mm (9mm MR MDF Core + laminate) https://www.screwfix.com mermaid https:mermaidpanels.co.uk £52.08 15 years no Metro Tile: 3mm Composite (?) https://mermaidpanels.co.uk/faqs mermaid https:mermaidpanels.co.uk £59.03 15 years Elite: 10mm 100% Wood Plastic Composite (WPC) 100% waterproof core https://mermaidpanels.co.uk/faqs multipanel multipanel.co.uk £60.76 30 years yes Linda Barker, Heritage, Classic, Neutrals: 11mm, laminate face and water resistant hardwood plywood core . https://www.multipanel.co.uk nuova rearo.co.uk £61.59 10 years yes nuova: 10mm 100% water impervious foam core https://rearo.co.uk/ IPSL interiorpanelsystems.co.uk £62.50 10 years yes Aquabord PVC: 10.5mm Hollow Section https://www.interiorpanelsystems.co.uk/ showerwall showerwall.co.uk £68.47 10 years yes HPL HPL: Laminate on MDF Acrylic: 4mm thick https://www.homesupply.co.uk/category/showerwall-panels fibo https:fibo.co.uk £72.22 25 years all panels: laminate front, 9mm birch plywood core, "moisture barrier" rear https://fibo.co.uk https://www.directbathroomandkitchen.co.uk/ splashwall (unknown) https://wetwall.co.uk/ £86.81 15 years yes Elite: Medium-density fibreboard (MDF) & vinyl https://static1.squarespace.com/static/ https://www.trade-point.co.uk/ mermaid https:mermaidpanels.co.uk £114.08 15 years Timeless Trade: 11mm weather and boil proof (WBP) plywood + laminate https://mermaidpanels.co.uk/faqs mermaid https:mermaidpanels.co.uk £118.14 15 years no Brilliance: 4mm acrylic https://mermaidpanels.co.uk/faqs multipanel multipanel.co.uk £123.71 1 year no Reflect Wall Panels: 4mm dual layered acrylic https://www.multipanel.co.uk/ https://www.upvcbuildingplastics.co.uk mermaid https:mermaidpanels.co.uk 15 years Classic: 11mm (matches width of the Timeless plywood laminate?) https://mermaidpanels.co.uk/faqs

I'll update more prices later. I suspect the panels have been more commonly used in commercial settings and are coming across to domestic markets more and more? Main constructions I can see are as follows: Plywood laminate: 9 mm plywood + 2 mm laminate Fibre Board laminate: 9 mm MDF + 2 mm laminate Plastic hollow core board: 10 mm PVC hollow core / vertical cuboid with decoration facing plastic foam board: 10 mm plastic foam with decoration facing Solid acrylic: 4 mm (with paint on rear face?) Paper Composite: 3 mm paper fibre phenolic resin laminates with decoration facing

primary retailer / maker URL price (£ per sq m) guarantee low visibility jointing materials sources multipanel multipanel.co.uk 1 year yes economy: 10mm rigid PVC with a decorative face. https://www.multipanel.co.uk 1 year no The Tile Collection: 3mm solid grade laminate panels https://www.multipanel.co.uk multipanel multipanel.co.uk 30 years yes Linda Barker, Heritage, Classic, Neutrals: 11mm, laminate face and water resistant hardwood plywood core . https://www.multipanel.co.uk multipanel multipanel.co.uk 1 year no Reflect Wall Panels: 4mm dual layered acrylic https://www.multipanel.co.uk/ mermaid https:mermaidpanels.co.uk 15 years no Brilliance: 4mm acrylic https://mermaidpanels.co.uk/faqs mermaid https:mermaidpanels.co.uk 15 years Elite: 10mm 100% Wood Plastic Composite (WPC) 100% waterproof core https://mermaidpanels.co.uk/faqs mermaid https:mermaidpanels.co.uk 15 years Mermaid Classic: 11mm (matches width of the Timeless plywood laminate) https://mermaidpanels.co.uk/faqs mermaid https:mermaidpanels.co.uk 15 years no Metro Tile: 3mm Composite (?) https://mermaidpanels.co.uk/faqs mermaid https:mermaidpanels.co.uk 15 years Timeless Trade: 11mm weather and boil proof (WBP) plywood + laminate https://mermaidpanels.co.uk/faqs fibo https:fibo.co.uk 25 years all panels: laminate front, 9mm birch plywood core, "moisture barrier" rear https://fibo.co.uk IPSL interiorpanelsystems.co.uk 10 years yes Aquabord PVC Aquabord Laminate: 10mm Solid w/ Foam Core Aquabord PVC: 10.5mm Hollow Section Proclad Solid Colour: 2.5mm Solid uPVC https://www.interiorpanelsystems.co.uk/ showerwall showerwall.co.uk 10 years yes HPL HPL: Laminate on MDF Acrylic: 4mm thick panelstyle panelstyle.co.uk 5 years Splash Panel hollow core 10mm starline plumbworld.co.uk 10 years unknown anacona rearo.co.uk £17.69 1 year yes 10mm PVC (vertical cuboid hollowcore?) selkie rearo.co.uk £44.36 10 years yes selkie: 11mm laminate Water and Boil Proof (WBP) 9mm Plywood or moisture resistant (MR) MDF https://rearo.co.uk/ versa tile rearo.co.uk £16.99 10 years no versa tile: 3mm, layers of resin dipped of paper fibre https://rearo.co.uk/ nuova rearo.co.uk £61.59 10 years yes nuova: 10mm 100% water impervious foam core https://rearo.co.uk/ Aquatech showerenclosuresuk.com £22.71 no Aquatech: 10mm PVC (vertical cuboid hollowcore?) showerenclosuresuk.com Aquaglass showerenclosuresuk.com £39.58 yes Aquaglass: 10mm PVC (vertical cuboid hollowcore?) showerenclosuresuk.com

thanks so much everyone. I'll update my table today and come back

Some the retailers hide who the manufacturer is but you can sometimes identify the maker by looking for the most distinctive pattern (e.g. geometric).