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Thanks for the reply. Interestingly So i save over £1500 moving to WhiteWing Relays and Dimmer control form Loxone Name Cost 1st Floor Inputs Ground Floor Inputs Shed Total Inputs Device Inputs Total Total Cost Relay Extension 396.636 28 10 8 46 14 4 1189.908 Dimmer Extension 542.364 5 0 5 4 2 1084.728 RGBW 24V Dimmer Tree SPOTS 93.768 12 7 19 4 5 468.84 Cost With VAT Total Inputs Total Devices Cost 16 Channel DMX relay controller RLY16-D 175 210 35 3 630 16- channel DMX AC LED dimmers DIM8-ACL 375 450 8 1 450 Total 1080 I would then need to buy the DMX extension @£350 I havent looked at DMX before. Reading up its a very well established protocol. Other than cost, i can see cab space being. big saver as well. Are there benefits to using Loxone over WhiteWing? Thanks for the help everyone.

Interesting, i have not seen Whitewing before. What are peoples reviews on Whitewing DMX dimmers over the very expensive Loxone Extensions? I have time to switch over. I have read some issues with the Loxone Dimmer and dimming LED's. Has anyone had this issue. Assuming no one has had issues with Whitewing DMX controls? Thanks Nick

My Affinity Designer 2 trial has expired so now need to work out how i can get another shot at it to ensure i a have enough space. I am now considering if i have enough space. Current equipment list is: House 4 x Relay Extension 2 x Dimmer Extension 5 x RGBW 24V Dimmer Tree SPOTS 3 x RGBW 24V Dimmer Tree LED Strips 1 x Tree Extension 1 x MiniServer 1 x 1-Wire Extension 1 x AO Extension 1 x Audio Server 1 x Loxone Power and Backup The shed will house 1 x Relay Extension 1 x PSU 1 x nano DI

Hi all I am about to pull a trigger for a LXN5-D from Future Automation Certainly not the cheapest but seems like its the best on the market. Annoyingly Future Automation only del with the trade. Any recommendations on where i can purchase a cab from? Thanks Nick

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Thanks for the reply. Yes they are block walls. Tomorrow I will get some better photos. Thanks for confirming to put the stairs in first

Hi all We have pulled our house apart and have removed the old staircase. We have changed stair location and are now at a point of looking at stair building websites. We are unsure whether to wait and plaster the walls or is it common to fit the stairs then plaster the walls. As you can see the stairs runs across 3 walls. We have had a few windows and doors moved so there is a lot to replaster around the staircase. Do we - Order and fit the staircase to the have the walls plastered? - plaster the walls and then order and fit the staircase? Thanks

Hi everyone We are having some work done and moving the kitchen from the front to the side of the property. The builder has suggested to channel out the floor and run the water feed along the study floor and in the ceiling, down to the new location. I have concerns about this. We have UFH downstairs so the cold water will be heated. The UFH will be laid on top so will be extremely expensive if we have a leak I have suggested we wait until the scaffolding comes down and we run the cold water feed outside in 25mm to the utility where we can tee off to where the feeds are required Any other thoughts? Is this the best method to relocate the water? Thanks