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ASHP UFH manifold flow meter setting help
MechanicalBuilder replied to MechanicalBuilder's topic in Underfloor Heating
I’ve got the WDC down to ask for 28’c but the ASHP won’t modulate lower than 30’c which is fine but it’s overheating the house -
ASHP UFH manifold flow meter setting help
MechanicalBuilder replied to MechanicalBuilder's topic in Underfloor Heating
My concern here is if I turn it down any more I’ll have little to no flow on the flow meters, I think the shorter loops are already down to 0.6l/m. are you suggesting minuscule adjustments as in 1/4 or 8th turn. It’s an ivar manifold similar to the pic -
ASHP UFH manifold flow meter setting help
MechanicalBuilder replied to MechanicalBuilder's topic in Underfloor Heating
The HP is a daikin edlv08 for reference -
ASHP UFH manifold flow meter setting help
MechanicalBuilder replied to MechanicalBuilder's topic in Underfloor Heating
Hi John, thanks for the reply The manifold is connected directly to the HP with no buffer, mixer or pump. I have room thermostats but I’m not using them. I have the LWT controlling the HP and it’s now modulating using the WDC which has it running more efficiently than it ever has before! -
Hi, im after some help setting my UFH manifold. The plumber set all my actuators wide open even though I have varying loop lengths (1 is 60m, a couple are 90 and the remaining 100m-ish) is there a rule of thumb for adjusting the flow meters? Had a mate come over and adjust them using a calculation given by the ufh installer but he then readjusted them using pipe clamps to try and get a difference of 5’c. ive a feeling they still aren’t right!
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Air-to-air vs air-to-water
MechanicalBuilder replied to Tarrington's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
Just to bring this thread back up for anyone who finds it, I’ve just installed 2 daikin ASHP’s on my new build. One 8kw for the ufh and dhw with a 7.5kw split for the three bedrooms (large) upstairs. The a2a is quiet and the Daikin Stylish wall mounts are aesthetically pleasing to be fair. All set via the onecta app and very quiet at night. Didn’t bother with the grant as I’m fortunate enough my best mate is a HP engineer. -
I’ve been trying the ‘open loop’ method of running my heat pump but the daikin Altherma HP will not stop cycling! I have set the control to LWT rather than external stats but something is calling for heat and running the compressor. Even with a LWT as low as 28-30’c I managed to consume 10kwh over night. The house is a brand new build and doesn’t really need much to keep it at 21’c
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ASHP water leaving temperature control
MechanicalBuilder replied to JohnMo's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
@JohnMo where did you find the hysteresis adjustment in the main zone control? I am in installer profile yet can’t find it! I seem to be having the same problem as you had (ref your previous post that linked to this one!) **edit** my mistake, forgot you aren’t using a Daikin system! I don’t believe I’ve got hysteresis control for the main system it just solely uses delta t. I’ve called the installer to come back on Friday and sort it out. I’ve had to turn it off it’s using 10kwh a day doing sweet fa plus the dhw is using 5-7kwh to heat a 300litre tank to 50’c Phil -
Vaillant Arotherm in open loop, with buffer
MechanicalBuilder replied to Peter269's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
John does this help stop cycling? Sorry to revive an old thread but I’m trying out WC over a fixed flow temp and I can’t stop the heat pump from cycling. It’s a daikin altherma 3 and at 10’c OT 30’c flow temp the house is overheating. I try to turn down the flow temp and the compressor is short cycling every 20 mins or so. I’m really trying to use the ‘low and slow’ method of heating but I’m finding the ashp doesn’t really need to do much. Have you a rule of thumb for when your heating season begins? I’d like to try and leave the heat pump on all the time but as I’m off grid I can’t afford the excess power consumption of this -
Evening all, has anyone ever had any issues getting their as built saps and completion certificate when cascading ASHP without prior planning permission? I’m planning on attempting it with my self-build and I’ll have installation and commissioning certs. Permitted rights only allow one ASHP but im looking to install 2. Is anyone likely to look into this when I obtain my as built saps and then completion cert?
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Hi all, Currently planning the security system for the new build. As we have been given 2x hikvision ir speed domes I’ve decided to go for full hikvision system as I’m a bit OCD and like to know everything is compatible! I’m looking for a hardwired video doorbell that’s compatible. Hikvision do some but they are all wifi. I’d like one that’s hardwired so I don’t have to mess about charging etc thanks
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So the time has come to start designing the layout for our home network for our 220m2 bungalow. I've attached the floor plans so hopefully they load up ok! We are fairly rural so have a 60mbps broadband connection, hopefully fibre will make it to us sometime in the near future but its looking like its a few years away yet! I'm no it expert but i'm fairly hands on with this sort of thing, love to learn and get involved, Ive been researching the Ubiquiti stuff on here but not so sure I will need anything so technologically advanced but open to suggestions. I'm thinking of bringing the phoneline into the house and putting the master socket in the cupboard under the stairs, the logic being its somewhere I can hide everything out of the way. Plus, that will be a space that never changes in the future. I can put the router, printer and switch in here and run the network cables from here. CCTV wise im using hikvision so will have a dedicated NVR with PoE connections. We stream IPTV so I will put a double network connection in all bedrooms, the study, the living room and the dining room. The study is going to be a toy room for the next 10+ years otherwise id put it all here! May need to add a couple in the garage for the solar/heat pump if needed. Aside from this the netgear mesh wifi system looks a good way of providing wifi for the rest of the house! As a side note, my parents are living in a static caravan next door and I plan on pinching the phone line from them and sharing the network. I may add a mesh satellite in their caravan for wifi along with a network connection for their IPTV. Open to your ideas! Ground Floor.pdf 2nd Floor.pdf Location diagram.PDF
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Yeah it’ll be very well insulted and air tight as a matter of course anyway. He’s said we could get away with less but has calculated for 4kw. Either way I’m going to have to have it. I’ve been trawling through my emails and paperwork as I’m positive I’ve seen it written that any solar has to be installed by someone MCS accredited. Spoke with the National Grid today, very helpful chap on the phone. He’s going to look into the transformer upgrade and cable run they’ve proposed and he said he should be able to give me some idea of what they would allow. That might help me decide. I’m still tempted to get my MPAN number and just go off grid anyway. They want me to be green so I’ll see how they like the Perkins pumping carbon into the atmosphere to charge my batteries during winter 😂😂😂😂
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Thanks Simon. I’m sure I saw in my paperwork somewhere that it has to be installed by someone MCS accredited, I think it maybe the site insurance and structural warranty. I’ve had so much paperwork to get through I’ve lost track haha. I’ll have a read through that forum later on when I get home from work
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Who’s your DNO if you don’t mind me asking? I’ve just contacted national grid and awaiting phone call from my local office. They were quite helpful on the phone so hoping the callback is the same. I would much rather complete a grid tied self install! I might be wrong but I think I will have to wait until building control has signed off the build before I can start as I’m sure it says it has to be installed by someone MCS accredited to be compliant?
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I priced up a couple of options last night to get down to the nitty gritty of what the extra cost of being grid tied is going to set us back. The difference over staying off grid and self installing a system adequate for our own needs or being grid tied will cost us about £18k plus the standing charges and interest in mortgage repayments on the money. I was just interested to see if we would ever see that extra cost back!
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This is what they have given- Est. Annual consumption 6500kWh Est. PV output of 25682 kWh Peak Rate 0.43 Off Peak Rate 0.19 Export rate 0.21 Standing Charge 0.51 Annual bill with solar -£3,842 Annual bill without solar £2,839 Theyve assumed that we will be able to export 18,295 kWh or 50kWh a day for 365 days at 0.21p a unit.
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Unfortunately our power has to come up through the middle of the road so the contestable works limit who i can use. Ive got someone quoting this week but a couple of years ago when we first enquired he was only a couple of grand cheaper and advised the saving wasnt worth the hassle the national grid would give us! I'm looking into our plan of staying off-grid, we have a self build mortgage so I need to know when they are going to ask about the mains. I think its at first fix and we cant afford for them to hold any money back. I had another advisor whos a friend look into off-grid mortgages for us, she could get one through ecology but did warn that with the residential mortgager they kind of have a monopoly over us knowing we have limited options so may end up paying quite a bit more in repayments
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We are kind of veering off subject a bit here as I’ve used extreme worst case consumption figures. I get what your saying but you don’t know the heat loss calcs of the build, the room sizings, how many occupants or our living style? It’s different strokes for different folks. We may well be having 3 baths a day and heating the 300litre tank twice.. the heat pump system has been designed by a multi-million pound air conditioning and heat pump company that aren’t trying to sell me something for a profit… What i’m wanting to really know is how realistic the figures are that have been provided by the solar company selling me the system. They have estimated we will consume 6000kWh and be up by £4000 as a result of exporting. Is this realistic? I have to pay £30000 to have a mains connection which isn’t debatable so why not spend the extra £10k for solar installation over a self install and be connected to the grid and export if I’m standing to be up £4000 a year??
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The idea is that the upstairs will hardly ever be on whilst the downstairs is a little oversized so it’s not running flat out to provide heating and hot water. The bungalow is 300m2 and will be as well insulated and sealed as possible. The issue isn’t going to be solar production or storage for ourselves, it’s whether to bother with the extra expense of having more to export