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  1. TheMitchells
    I dont know why but the thought of having a cellar gives me great excitment! It has that particular smell that I remember from a student house I lived in at Crewe many years ago. It too had a cellar and smelt just the same.  However, it did get very damp and everything put down there rotted or came up covered in mould - so not an ideal comparison. 
    As I mentioned in the first blog post, these cottages all had them and they had a coal shute from the front garden. Ours has now been blocked off and the wall made good. But there is quite a lot of work to do down here.  OH is quite excited by it as most of the wiring and plumbing runs under the floorboards so are easy enoght to get at and be easily accessable when he starts changing it all around and updating it. 
    There are storage cupboards at the end.  The rubbish bags have now gone.  You can see the waste pipes from the bathroom which is above this corner of the cellar.  This is looking towarads the back of the house, left hand side. 
    This is the bottom of the stairs at the front and to the rear.
    You can clearly see the damp in the big post.  And the missing step at the bottom. The handrail is wobbly and the treads are quite small. 
     
    A mishmash of supports.
    Strangely, the beams across the back half of the house are all much larger than the front and seem in good order.  Those at the front are smaller and most have had their ends added to, to give support.

    These all need replacing. 
    The next problem is that there is water leaking in at the front corner to the right of the coal store.  When we had the heavy rain last week, it was running down the walls and it is quite wet on the floor.  But as it is a dirt floor, it is soaking away. 
    The rest of the cellar and walls are suprisingly dry and seem fine.

    We think the first job will be to sort out the beams and see if we can prevent the water entering from outside.  One builder has quoted
    Front room
    -    Take up existing floor and joists and dispose of waste;
    -    Install new 195mm x 47mm treated joists (a Structural Engineer may be needed to establish what size joists to use, I have got this size from a building regs guide);
    -    Lay 24mm chipboard flooring to complete floor;
    It is likely that the skirting board will need to be removed to take the existing floor up. Care would be taken in doing this, but damage may still occur to plastered walls. Any obstructing services in the existing floor are to be removed by the customer.    
    £2600.00
    But we are thinking that we should be able to do this ourselves once we know what to do (obviously) and we are looking to get the OH's ex-brother in law down who is a very experienced builder and specialises in building bridges.  He will hopefully help wth what to do and what sizes to use and at what distances.  It would be nice to be able to remove the props. 
    Another thing to decide is whether to dig the floor out or not.  If we do, the time to do it will be when the front floor is up as we could then lift up the material through the front room, rather than the long carry, up the rickety stairs, round the corner into middle room, through to the front and out the front door. However, there is still the issue of getting rid of all the removed soil which will have to be done by wheelbarrow to a skip on the road, about 100m away.  And will it realy add value to the finished house?  More investigating to do with maybe a couple of companies coming round to give some quotes.  We also hope to be able to visit the other houses in our row and see what they have all done.
    Cinema room/Wine cellar/kids play area?  We dont want to get into the problems of making it into a habitable room as that brings issues of how to escape should there be a fire and complying with all the building regs. So we are leaning towards making it dry and tidying it up and just using it for storage. 
  2. TheMitchells
    As some of you may know, we have been looking to build for several years but are finding it very hard to get a plot near here within our price range.  We have been waiting for Graven Hill since early 2013 but after more than half a dozen deadlines came and went, with never an explanation or apology, I wouldn't touch the plots with a barge pole now.  But I don't want to get too disillusioned so while we wait to find the 'ideal' plot, we were offered the chance to buy a nearby small rundown Victorian end terrace for a very reasonable price.  It looks just right as there isn't much structural stuff to be done so we hope to be able to do most of it ourselves.  The OH retires in November so I have to have something to keep him busy. 
    I have attached the building survey and here is the front of the house.
     
    It's a bit of a strange location as our row of 7 cottages are set behind a row of another houses which are on the main road.  We have to walk down a narrow alley behind the other row, to get to the front of ours.  Its about 60m from the road and there is no way of getting a vehicle any closer.  Initially this did put us off; however, it is clear that people manage quite well. Most of the houses have had extensions built so it is possible to do most jobs but extra time and effort will be needed to remove and get things to site.  Skips can be put onto the road and everything will have to be wheel barrowed onto site; so not the easiest location for a fairly major renovation.
    As you can see there is a small alley between ours and the house on the left. That takes us to the rear of the properties where we have a narrow path behind the house, leading to the back of the house to the right, to their back door.  There is no back garden, just a wall (which is leaning quite badly) then a raised garden belonging to a house on another road, which runs the whole length of the row of cottages.  It is quite strange as the chap can be gardening while looking straight into the kitchen window.  Not ideal I know.  However, he is old and there is talk of all the cottages buying the land to the back, which we have said we'd be happy to do too.  But I don't think it will be very straight forward to waiting to see about that.  The wall belongs to this chap too and he knows it is leaning and needs work so I am hoping that will give him an incentive to sell. 

    There is room to get alongside the back, that's our lovely wooden back door, leading to the yellow house/extention of the neighbour.  The house in the distance behind the huge holly, is the owner of the gardens.  Its a long, long garden.
    So, about the house.  We believe it was built around the mid 1800's, as church cottages to the nearby church building, dated 1836. We are the end of three with a row of four next to us.  The front of the house faces south so the garden gets plenty of light.  On the ground floor is a front room, stairs, a bathroom, middle room with the kitchen in a newish extension at the back. Upstairs there are three bedrooms, one large at the back with two smaller ones at the front.  I plan to create a post for each room with lots of photographs and what we think we need to do for each room.  And to add plenty of excitement - we have a cellar - an old fashioned coal cellar the full size of the house.

    It's a bit rickety and the bottom step is missing.  There are Akro props holding up some of the beams under the front room and the surveyor says we need to replace them all.  Unfortunately there is not sufficient height to stand upright although I can manage it with my head between the beams.

    That's the coal store and the board to the left was the shaft which went up to the front garden, under the front window.  The previous owners had it blocked up and the front wall waterproofed down to cellar level, rendered and painted.  No mention of insulation in the document.  What to do with the cellar is one of the many questions we are looking at. 
    The idea is to renovate with the intention of selling and hopefully making a profit or, if the economic situation is not favourable, then we can rent it out.  But this will be a slow renovation and we have no intention of being in by Christmas and I certainly have no intention of getting pregnant!  We are using it as a learning experience as this is far more than we have done in the past.  We have a builder lined up for some of the work but the rest we plan to do ourselves.
    I am sure there will be lots of questions for our fellow buildhubbers in the months ahead and I hope you enjoy reading about our progress.  Advice and tips always welcome.
     
    Building Survey Report Blank.pdf
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