A house! A house! My kingdom for a house!

So you can put a Yuuuuge (copyright: Trump) shed in the back corner :-)

 

That is a big reduction for your neighbour.

Edited June 30, 2017 by Ferdinand

@Ferdinand Yup, this is what they were going to go for. It's since changed for a number of reasons, but shows the reduction of the usable space without challenging what is allowed on the no build zone. I really feel for them - it could have been us.

 

 

Edited June 30, 2017 by AliMcLeod

Rather than a stepped wall, I would just rotate the house a few degrees clockwise so the wall aligns with the new edge of the exclusion zone. Or is there a planning condition saying the front of the house has to be exactly parallel with the road?

I don't believe he had such a planning condition, but the north-east corner of the building would then be encroaching towards the road, and although there was no planning condition as such, I suspect planning won't have wanted it any closer than it is. 

 

As it is, that plot owner encountered issues when they started the dig for the foundation work, with the ground giving away under the pipeline. The proposed solution was sheet piling, but that was adding £10Ks to the cost. They then decided to change the design and go for new planning, but as far as I can tell, those were submitted using the original "wrong" pipeline location. They were approved last week, but, as we've learned, planning don't care about the location of the pipeline. The only condition is that the pipeline owner must sign off the foundation plan before digging can commence. His structural engineer is also using the original pipeline drawings.

 

I've pointed out that his approved plans have the wrong pipeline location and his house is on the no-build zone, but he seems keen to let events unfold... 

Edited June 30, 2017 by AliMcLeod

Hope he had an 'if the earth moves' clawback in his plot purchase agreement !

 

Or hopefully it was the original developer who had that plot and picked up the liability.

 

In that situation I might try and turn the primary frontage through ninety degrees and argue it faced the side road, or put my gravelled parking where the pipeline is - topography allowing.

Edited July 1, 2017 by Ferdinand

PS DOes this mean you can do that wonderful side garden where the pipeline isn't anymore?

Edited July 1, 2017 by Ferdinand

I don't think it's that uncommon to find things in the wrong place, it seems to happen a lot, with everything from pipelines and HV power cables to smaller pipes and cables.  We found a water pipe under the lane in front of the house that the water company had told us didn't exist.  We traced it to a neighbouring house and found the stop cock in the verge had been replaced relatively recently, as it had the water companies name on it.  Similarly, there was a very large project nearby to run a large diameter, high pressure, water supply pipe across several miles of fields, under a river and across two major roads.

 

I drove past the roadworks involved with this every day for several months, and was intrigued by the large drilling rig they used to bore underneath the river (which is a popular trout fishing one).  Out of curiosity, I had a look at the project website, to see if there was any information about the way they were drilling under the river.  There was a scale plan of the project, and it was pretty clear that the pipe was not in the same place on the ground as it was on the plan - my guess is that they had to re-position it for some reason, but that the new position wasn't reflected in the plan.  There's no indication that this pipe is there now, the crops are back growing on the fields and you need to look closely to see where the work was done.  I just hope that someone had the sense to re-draw the plans to show the as-built location.

They put a big watermain through the fields where we used to live.

 

Did something wrong and drained a poor bloke's fishing lake from below. It took the best part of a decade to resolve.

On 01/07/2017 at 10:43, Ferdinand said:

Hope he had an 'if the earth moves' clawback in his plot purchase agreement !

 

Or hopefully it was the original developer who had that plot and picked up the liability.

 

In that situation I might try and turn the primary frontage through ninety degrees and argue it faced the side road, or put my gravelled parking where the pipeline is - topography allowing.

 

I don't think he had any comeback from the purchase - the legal docs mentioned the pipeline but at no point did it state where it was. The drawings that showed the pipeline location were only shown on the already-approved planning, but these were not specifically part of the plot purchase. I guess he'd have to have shown that he was misled in the plot purchase.

 

He has changed his house and has kept the outlook south (it overlooks the River Forth) but has changed his entrance to the east. But, as i said above, his new plans seem to have the original (wrong) pipeline location and the house now sits on the no build zone.

 

 

 

On 01/07/2017 at 10:47, Ferdinand said:

PS DOes this mean you can do that wonderful side garden where the pipeline isn't anymore?

 

The restriction on the no build zone effectively boils down to nothing with foundations (so that the pipeline owner could access it to perform maintenance) or deep roots or a heavy load , so we could always have used that space, but it is more flexible for us now.

 

 

Edited July 3, 2017 by AliMcLeod