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DannyT

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Just some advise for those who know a bit more than me about it.

We purchased a plot in Scotland with the strip foundations in the ground for the passed application. The building warrant has expired but we have confirmation from planning department that plot has planning in perpetuity as works were started before it expired.

Now we are looking to change the design of the house but use the existing footprint and foundations.

Would this come under a whole new application or a amendment to existing?

access, soak away, septic tank, house position etc is all going to be the same. Highways, water, etc have already approved current application also.

New design is still white, single storey, slate roof as approved previously.


If it’s not a whole new application, I’m wondering if I can send in new designs to PD and sort out an architect after for building regs/warrant side of things.

 

cheers

 

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55 minutes ago, DannyT said:

I’m wondering if I can send in new designs to PD and sort out an architect after for building regs/warrant side of things

I would decide what you are doing exactly, then update the current plans and resubmit as an amendment. Then get your building warrant after that is approved.  Get your architect sorted, you will also need a structural engineer for structural certificate, if you are changing the structural design and as designed SAP report for the new warranty.

 

Take the opportunity to add an ASHP to the plans, and insulate to death and sort your airtightness details.

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27 minutes ago, JohnMo said:

I would decide what you are doing exactly, then update the current plans and resubmit as an amendment. Then get your building warrant after that is approved.  Get your architect sorted, you will also need a structural engineer for structural certificate, if you are changing the structural design and as designed SAP report for the new warranty.

 

Take the opportunity to add an ASHP to the plans, and insulate to death and sort your airtightness details.

Thats the plan. ASHP, solar with batteries, lots of insulation, MVHR, triple glazed etc.

I have already designed a house to fit on the existing foundation.

https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/topic/40750-design-for-mull-of-galloway-thoughts/

 

I did manage to get an initial site meeting with the original architect but so many questions I should have asked, I did not. 

We did hope for an amendment to keep architects time to a minimum and not have to go through a whole application.

 

I was concerned by him saying his fee is a percentage of build cost. I’m not interested in that. Straight forward flat fee is what I expect.
The plan at moment is for an architect to draw up what I give them, no design input. Just make sure it meets regs, calcs, etc then not have to deal with them again after approval.

 

I suppose if I submitted the design to PD, an architect would have to draw it up their way to submit for building warrant anyway so wouldn’t save much in long run and if I have the original fella, he already knows the site and his previous approved work.


 

 

 

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Forgive me for my stupidity. I’m more hands on than paperwork.

If for instance the new amended design was passed by planning. 

No building warrant etc. 

Does the 3 year countdown start again to start the new design or is the fact it’s currently in perpetuity and using the original foundations mean it’s again in perpetuity and no time limit imposed?

 

I’ll fire a email this week to planning but wondered if anyone here knows 👍

 

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18 minutes ago, DannyT said:

If for instance the new amended design was passed by planning. 

Its just an amendment, the original plan was accepted and initiated, so that doesn't change with an amendment. If you did new planning application, everything starts a new countdown.

 

We changed our planning drawings before getting a warrant and the previous owner had initiated so that still stood.

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That’s good to hear from someone who has experience.

It’s not the plan to sit for so long but you never know in todays world.

Cheers John. 
 

38 minutes ago, JohnMo said:

Its just an amendment, the original plan was accepted and initiated, so that doesn't change with an amendment. If you did new planning application, everything starts a new countdown.

 

We changed our planning drawings before getting a warrant and the previous owner had initiated so that still stood.


 

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