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intermittent F75 on vaillant ecotec 831


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Hi

So im getting an intermittent (once a day ish) F75 on my 2014 ish vaillant ecotec 831. 

Heating is on, all fine, for minutes -> hours then F75 appears and heating goes off.

When I turn the boiler switch off and back on it goes away, HW and heating ok, then it comes back.

Checked the electronic pressure sensor, it was always 3.8, so I changed it.

New sensor works fine but intermittent F75  still present.

Then I noticed the off the pressure was creeping up by about 1.5 bar a day, so I removed the handles from the inlet valves and tightened the valve with a screwdriver, problem solved, pressure stable at 1.6.

But intermittent  F75 remains.

So im stuck any suggestions appreciated.

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The Vaillant F75 error code will display when your boiler can't register a pressure change when the pump turns on. This usually happens because of a faulty pump or if there's a problem with the water pressure sensor.

 

So perhaps check the pump or wiring to the pump.

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48 minutes ago, Temp said:

Google says...

 

The Vaillant F75 error code will display when your boiler can't register a pressure change when the pump turns on. This usually happens because of a faulty pump or if there's a problem with the water pressure sensor.

 

So perhaps check the pump or wiring to the pump.

 

48 minutes ago, Temp said:

Google says...

 

The Vaillant F75 error code will display when your boiler can't register a pressure change when the pump turns on. This usually happens because of a faulty pump or if there's a problem with the water pressure sensor.

 

So perhaps check the pump or wiring to the pump.

The pressure sensor reads correctly and I can hear the pump working, that's why i'm confused. It appears not to be a normal F75 problem. Also the rads get hot which confirms the pump is ok.

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On 11/01/2024 at 10:04, dscoll said:

thats what i thought but it doesn't sound very likely. i posted the question here to see if anyone else had seen this behaviour 

This exact behaviour happened to me today. Did you manage to find the root cause?

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13 hours ago, marshian said:

https://www.urbanplumbers.co.uk/vaillant-f-75-error-code-full-boiler-repair/

 

Issues discussed in the blog above - might help?

Thanks for that. The blog suggested there could be an issue with the expansion vessel, so I checked it and it was full of water ie when I pressed the schrader valve water spurted out. Also, when the boiler runs the pressure goes up to 3 and because of this water has been coming out of the overflow pipe  These 3 points (the internet tells me) suggest a punctured expansion chamber, so i'm going to replace the EV.

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59 minutes ago, dscoll said:

Thanks for that. The blog suggested there could be an issue with the expansion vessel, so I checked it and it was full of water ie when I pressed the schrader valve water spurted out. Also, when the boiler runs the pressure goes up to 3 and because of this water has been coming out of the overflow pipe  These 3 points (the internet tells me) suggest a punctured expansion chamber, so i'm going to replace the EV.

 

Good catch.

 

I've found that once a pressure relief valve opens they tend to leak by even after the cause of the over pressure has been fixed. Think they get bits of scale in them? So I think there is a good chance you will need to replace the PRV as well as the EV but do the EV first. I wouldn't put corrosion inhibitor back in until its been running for a few days just in case the PRV does need doing.

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1 hour ago, Temp said:

 

Good catch.

 

I've found that once a pressure relief valve opens they tend to leak by even after the cause of the over pressure has been fixed. Think they get bits of scale in them? So I think there is a good chance you will need to replace the PRV as well as the EV but do the EV first. I wouldn't put corrosion inhibitor back in until its been running for a few days just in case the PRV does need doing.

Ok, thanks , i'll keep an eye on the PRV but my guess is it's ok because the pressure when the system is on is 3 bar, which is the level that the PRV kicks in at.

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3 hours ago, dscoll said:

Thanks for that. The blog suggested there could be an issue with the expansion vessel, so I checked it and it was full of water ie when I pressed the schrader valve water spurted out. Also, when the boiler runs the pressure goes up to 3 and because of this water has been coming out of the overflow pipe  These 3 points (the internet tells me) suggest a punctured expansion chamber, so i'm going to replace the EV.

No problem - I follow his blog - he's a very clever chap and when I saw that I thought it might be worth a link

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