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  1. By the way of update. All my current panel steel radiators will get replaced to aluminium radiators. Delivery expected next week. Can`t wait to replace it all. And the price was 1/3 to what I was asked to pay for special low temp radiators.
  2. @PeterW I have found that B2 & B3 terminal gives +24V as a output signal. I have finnaly plugged two small LED`s there. And I must say this LED`s gives nice indication to what is actually going on with ASHP.
  3. Please check my previous posts. I`ve uploaded few pics there, where you can see entire ASHP separate loop (filled with glycol). Capacity of this loop is approx 5.5l. And yes-I am using separate pumps. One circ. pump inside ASHP loop (pictured), and two other pumps on internal CH instalation- DHW and CH separate. You can use 3way motorised valve from h.exchanger to split to UFH and DHW. Just remember- for DHW you will need separate "simple logic control unit" (thermostat etc.etc.) as you need to run ASHP at approx 60 degree of C. I do not have a 3 way valve fitted at my installation. Instead I installed so called "flap valve". Simple valve - no extra cables needed, last forever.
  4. Hello @PTUK I will put few words from me. This ASHP needs approx 25l/min of liquid flow to run without errors. Make sure you can provide that kind of flow. Otherwise you will get errors. To run this ASHP on 42% or 33% (you dont need more output power for 45m2) you need to keep only one active input- A3 for 33% or A2 for 42%. To choose between power modes simply you can use two way switch. You can even put 2 gang 2 way switch from Wickes for £1.50 and you will be able to choose between 33%,42% % 53% of its power. Keep it simple. I also suggest to separate ASHP liquid loop from the house internal istalation (just like I did) with plate heat exchanger. No further worries in terms on outside temp. dropping below zero and unstable liquid flow at the ASHP. Happy to provide some more info/drawings if needed. And at last- yes 5bar is the correct figure for pressure test.
  5. Highest temp I get at 77% is 62C. Never tried on full power. But I will play with it in the day or two. Interesting. BTW @JSHarris - I did quoted online low temp radiators from local supplyer. Replacing all 14 radiators will cost me ... 3300Euros. Question is- will this be wort it of doing?
  6. 18kW is the "size" of my oil boiler. And yes 9kW heat pump will newer deliver enough heat to cover fully my requirements, but I need 18kW of heat at -18C. So for now relax - only -3C during the night. I also tried to convinced my other half to demolish entire floor to get underfloor heating, but how to say - the answer was ....NO!!! , so yes indeed good idea, time to think how to get low temp radiators, cos this would be a "low invasive project", so my moaning wife will keep her mouth shut .
  7. Your calculation is correct. It is what it is. According to my energy certificate my house requirement on heat is 100W/m2 when -18C outside. As a reminder- my house has 186m2 of living space. Also I have plugged this heat pump to standard central heating installation based on radiators. For last 3 weeks average outdoor temp + 2C durring the day, and -3C durring the night. Pump still set to (1) MAX 77% of power, and for most of the time (when is runing) it is sitting on 53% of power. I did try to increase it output power to 88% - and yes, average running time went down, but energy consumption was higher than normal. I dont mine if it runs for such long time. If I would have underfloor heating I can imagine that concrete floor would work as a buffer, and ASHP would run differently and at lower temp set. @JSHarris not sure how you doing this that your pump runs approx 1h/day. Respect. You must been living in so called passive house, and your energy needs are super duper low, or you have set internal termostat to 15C . I have to admit - I have never used so little(cost) energy in the past(heating oil) to keep my house warm for 1 month period. Last 24 days electricity consupion by ASHP will cost me aprox 85Euro. In the past for same period I used approx 200l of heating oil (160Euro). By the way - I have set to my self a 5000kWh limit of electrical energy I can use durring this seson. I will be in touch with you gents from time to time and I will keeps you updated on usage.
  8. I can fully confirm to @PeterW message. Also I wish to write few words in terms of Defrosting. I had a chance to witness such moment when pump switch itself to defrosting mode. Entire procedure took about 90sec. Durring this process compressor speed went down a bit. Temp at the hot outlet from the unit dropped during this process from 50C to 13C. After this short moment unit returned to normal mode. By the way of update: for last 24 days my ASHP consumed 685kWh. Total working time 336h. Average load 2.04kW
  9. I have checked the distance from the wall 34cm at my place
  10. Now I will add few pics. Quick explanation to all - I am not based in UK or even in EU. I live in the middle of nowhere and Install is done with all possible materials I could possibly get on the market. It is done in resonable way and its safe for me for my domestic purpose. This is 1K£ project and I have sticked to the budget. There is one more connection box on the other side of the wall in my basement to which all this pictured is connected. I also heve there small knob and relays to switch between ASHP and oil boiler. At picutre no. 3 there you can see small hour counter sitting on the pipe. I have done some calculation - how many hours a day (including HW preparation) unit works and what is the daily power consumption. And this is something that absolutelly brings the smile on my face. - reading from the 2/11/2018 - 18,7kWh used, total run for 24h - 9,5h. 18.7/9.5 = 1.97kW 2kW to keep 22.5 degree of C at entire house! That is less than my kettle! Regards
  11. Hi, pictures above were added by other happy users of PUHZ-W90. Nothing to do with my install and my "customised" contoroller.
  12. Hello everyone, Quick update from me in terms of connecting PUHZ-W90. Like I wrote before I get this ASHP few weeks ago. That basic controller which normally comes with it was not included. Never mind. Thanks to PeterW everything was preety easy to do. 1- The unit it has been placed outside, and it is connected via 1` pipe work to small loop filled with 50% of glycol (5.5l)- flow pump, filter, expansion vessel (2L),air bleeder valve, ball valve, fill valve and plate heat exchanger. In this loop entire pipework is not exceeding 5m. 2- CH loop (filled with water) is connected to above mentioned heat exchanger from the outer side. 3- I did not wanted to spend extra money on any controller (already did) so I have made one like I wrote few days ago - based on set of 5 electronic termostats- each individually set, and I have added also to these few relays (7 of R4). 4- I have done for myself a possibility to have a controll on what power unit works - with a help of ZBE 101 and 102 switch elements. I set 3 steps (3- position knob) of power. In each step pump starts on different level. Step 1 - 77%, step 2 - 88%, step 3 - 100% of its power. Each step then has 3 smaller steps: 1- 77- 53- 42 2- 88-64- 53 3- 100-88-64 During run - as soon as temp at outlet is rising termostat 1 (set to 48C) gets active and power goes down to another lower step i.e. start at 77% - then 53%. After that I have another termostat set to 51C. If temp still rising termostat nr 2 triggers and output power goes down to 42%. When after that temp still rising there is another termostat set at 61C. This one when activated Stops the ASHP untill temp will get down to 51C (hysteresis). There is another run mode (HW- mode - start output power 42%)- with ist separate set of termostats- 1first set to trigger at 56C- and power goes down to 30% , and second termostat set to 60C- when trigger (hysteresis set to 1degree only)- is opens for a moment main loop of CH instalation and pumps hot water on radiators (it takes about 30-40sec and temp goes down to 56C). All above mentioned tested. Works very very well. Each termostat has hysteresis set accordingly. ASHP is running for last 7 days. Lowest temp outside I had in my country during this week was 2C. For all this week (except tests) pump was set to STEP 1 (77% of its power). Because I installed extra heat exchanger, water temp on radiators goes up to 43C (when pump is set to 48C). I had to do the install like this cos of the outdoor temp in my country goes well below -20C from time to time. So small glycol filled loop seems to be good option. Like I wrote before. This ASHP is just an extra source of heat in my building. And because I have some PV panels I can munch little bit of kWh. By the way- Pump consumed for last 7 days 175kWh(separate meter installed). Not bad I think. All together for CH and HW. Since ASHP is running oil boiler is off. I may be able to post some pics if anyone will be interested. Regards
  13. Thx for your reply. I should explain at the begining that I purchase this ASHP only for the purpose of heating. I want it to get connected to my central heating system (heating oil boiler) purelly to save on heating oil. I have 10kW photovoltaic system in my place too. Happy to "consume" some of kWh through ASHP. It is not always necessary to run boiler especially when heat demand is low, hence in such moments I want to ASHP to "warm up" my radiators. I should not be a problem to get this two source of heat to be connected together in a logical way- thats not a problem. I manage to get FTC5 controller from popular website some time ago (£350), but I think I will have no use from it (model PAC-IF62)... unfortunatelly. Now I am thinking of getting anything like set of 4 digital termostats (w1209), and get those unit set to different setings (0-10 C, 10-20, 20-30, 30-45) connected together via set of relays to be able to acheve 3-or for steps via inputs A1,A2,A3. This should be easy to make. I am ok with electronics but I am not that far (so far) to build myself any kind of Arduino yet. Next saturday I will start connecting it (just not sure how to controll it yet) in a "clever way"
  14. Good Morning All, I am new to this forum and English is not my first language, so please be delicate... I decided to buy one of this IVT ASHP (PUHZ-W90) - awaiting delivery. Of course I will get it with same controller as you guys shown previously. In the meantime I went through all useful info you guys wrote in terms of controlling this unit. Digging over internet I found that initial controller for PUHZ-W90VHA must have been PAC-IF010 or PAC-IF11 (not sure about this second model). Interesting info which I found reading manual for this controllers is, that there is and option to set it (leaving A1, A2, A3 inputs open) to run external unit in AUTO mode. I was not sure what AUTO mode is, but finally found leaflet where AUTO mode is explained as mode where external unit (PUHZ-W90 it self) reads the temp of the air at the inlet to the unit, and sets the speed of the compressor accordingly. I`m think this could be more effective way of using this ASHP, having such mode active. In my understanding this have something to do with A4 terminal. Please correct me if I am wrong. Attached manual. Please ref to page 18. Mitsubishi_Electric_Air_to_Water_(ATW)_Heat_pump_Eng.pdf