Best way to combine Prior approval and planning permission

[JayBo1979]

HI there, after a couple of pre-apps and a refusal my local council have agreed in principle to my two storey side extension providing i step in by 1m at first floor level. This will replace an existing single storey side extension built with PP (keeping the same width at ground floor). This proposal is blue on the attached plan. I am getting ready to apply for PP for this but am confident we will now get it.

 

I also already have prior approval to build a rear single storey extension to replace my existing conservatory (red on the plan). The council agreed to 6m but I probably only need 4.5 or 5m. 

 

Ideally I also want to ‘infill’ the corner behind the kitchen (green on plan) making it essentially a side return/wraparound and wondered what the best way to achieve this is?

 

My planner thinks If i apply for evertything at once the council will reject it as being too large/overdevelopment and i tend to agree based on my past experiences with them. Also maybe need to think about the 45 degree tule if go for PP.

 

My thinking is i have few options 

1) Get PP for blue bit, build it and build the rear bit under PD and then apply for pp for the infill bit (maybe during the 3nd build)

2)  Forget the green bit

3) Could i potentially include the green bit in the initial planning application for the two storey side extension and then if i got that also do the PD bit? I assume not as it will then extend beyond the side of the ‘original’ house?

 

What do the experts think?

 

Any other options im missing?

 

Cheers Jay

 

PD:PP question.pdf

[DevilDamo]

Sort the prior approval works out first and then apply for planning for a part single and part two storey side extension.

 

Or… wait until the consultation finishes on the PD changes to see if wrap around extensions will be permitted (as initially outlined in the changes).

[JayBo1979]

Think DevilDamo,

 

we want to do the the two storey side bit first and leave the conservatory in place for the time being. 
 

Therefore as we have prior approval already  are we best to do the two storey bit- then build out the PD and the apply for the infill? 
 

I am guessing if the wraparound is included in the upcoming PD changes it may only allow 50% width but our side extension is/will be more than this….

 

anymore thoughts?

 

thanks 

 

Jay 

[DevilDamo]

Will the two storey part be that outlined in green? Or will it now also include the single storey rear element to the back of the two storey extension?

[JayBo1979]

The two storey bit is at the side in blue.

 

the rear bits are both single storey- the red bit I have prior approval for so trying to work out best way to get the green bit 

 

 

[DevilDamo]

To get the green bit, you’d need Planning and it would be a part single and part two storey side extension. Once you carry out that side extension, the remaining single storey part would require Planning as PD/PA does not allow you to connect to the side element.