TerryE Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) I have a passive-class house and I use resistive heating, that is I have a wet UFH system in-slab. OK our ground-floor footprint is a lot less than yours at less than 80m2 living space footprint per floor, but we do have 3 floors. Our slab and frame supplier charge us less than £2½K to add the heating loops into the slab pour. I did the rest for maybe £500 or so, so our CH worked out at around £3K total. One of the reasons that it was that cheap is that I use a resistive heater (a "Willis") to heat my UFH circulating water. We only heat our ground-floor with UFH, but I do use an oil-filler on the 1st and 2nd floor to top up overnight in the coldest months (up to ~10 kWh) at a total price less than £200 including the smart switches controlled by my home automation system. However, I also did the groundwork to add an ASHP at a later stage (pre laid insulated pipework to ASHP location, plur power spur) if and when the number made sense to do so. I figured that we'd go resistive until we had enough data to make an informed decision., and we've never reached a threshold where we have enough of a payback to make the investment case viable. During Dec/Jan about 70% of our electricity use is off-peak and for space on DHW heating this is 100% efficiency — that is 30 kWh of electricity generates 30 kWh heat. With an ASHP at the ~30°C circulation temperatures with long cycle times we would be looking at CoP of nearer 4 so we would need 7½ kWh electricity to achieve the same. That's a 22½ kWh energy saving. Based on our current year-round actuals, it makes sense for us to defer this decision, but we still have the option to add an ASHP should it make sense to do so. It seems to me that this IR panel route locks you into a CoP of 1.0 at a high installation cost. If you build to passive class (or near, e.g. wall, slab and roof U-value 0.15 W/m²K, decent triple glazing, MVHR, airtightness 0.6 ACH, or better), then the whole dynamic and sweet spot for heating changes. For example you really only need ground-floor heating Our in-slab heating cost us maybe £30/m² based on the ground floor, but that was for the total CH system costs, and we got 3 floors heated for this price. Edited February 24, 2023 by TerryE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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