water vapour diffusion resistance factor

[passivhybrid]

Just trying to figure out what products are breathable and which are not.

 

Came across the vapour diffusion resistance factor when looking at the properies of a straw based board.It shows 10/10 for a istraw board and 2/5 for a woodwool board( like celenit)

 

Another thing is that When i introduce a breather membrane on top of the insulation ( roof with counter batens ) i get condensation,if i don't put breather membrane into build up no condensation 

Edited October 21, 2019 by passivhybrid
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[Jeremy Harris]

I think the simple answer is that all materials are probably water vapour permeable, but there is a massive variation in that vapour permeability, from materials that can be considered, to all intents and purposes, to be water vapour impermeable, to those that could be considered to be highly water vapour permeable.

 

Perhaps worth just creating a list of likely materials, ranked in order of water vapour permeability, and using that, in conjunction with material thickness, to do a basic design that maintains a safe vapour permeability gradient.  Also worth trying to model the worst case transient/dynamic  conditions for the outer part of the structure, too, something that many models don't deal with that well.  It is possible to have a situation, for example, where after a cold night, that cools the outer part of the building fabric, you may then get a warm, wet morning, that drives vapour inwards, towards the cool area.  This may then condense, and if that part of the structure is then in shadow, it may not receive enough sensible heat in the area where moisture has condensed to be able to turn that moisture back into vapour, so it can move out of the structure.

[A_L]

@passivhybrid, if you did not know about mu values you may find the attached pdf useful.

 

Do you have name/characteristics of your breather membrane?

Vapour_Resistances includes perm conversions.pdf

[passivhybrid]

On 21 October 2019 at 17:39, A_L said:

@passivhybrid, if you did not know about mu values you may find the attached pdf useful.

 

Do you have name/characteristics of your breather membrane?

Vapour_Resistances includes perm conversions.pdf 144.47 kB · 6 downloads

thanks breather membrane is fom Dorken Delta Maxx Plus

basc specs in screen grab below

[A_L]

 @passivhybrid your breather membrane has quite a high Sd value relative to your insulations, do you get condensation when you simulate your full build-up with breather membrane? here is a breather membrane with a lower Sd value

 

https://novia.co.uk/uploads/components/variation/NoviaBlack19-5cc2d6b10e0c1.pdf