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Yes, but it isn't on the property land ? that's why I Could understand not using own address like they did for erection the building. ?

Thank you. ?

Your right. Good advice x

Not when it looks like a carrs billington shop ?....

Ohh lots of historical loop holes to get planning and this new one right on my door so it would effect us. Just would like people to be honest about their intentions, then if planning granted then its a fair system. When applications go in for agricultural buildings then before even completed stables are in. Happy with stables. Don't have an issue. Juat be honest on applications otherwise people get nervous about an end game.

No no pink sign up. And yes I would say it is in the curtilage, however the previous application to have it erected was under a different address again.

Arrh I see. It is infront of... However the planning for the building to be erected was in a different address again. The converted barn not the farm house. They definitely didn't get notice or are not the neighbour notification list either.

Hi I previously put a post in regarding a change of use regarding an agricultural building and just want to ask more advice. We are in a plot of 3 houses consisting of farm house.... Converted barn and now a newly converted agricultural build. The people who have the newest build are the one looking to change the use of another newly built agricultural building. The application is in, but this time even though it states their current address and the land they own, the application is under the farm house address (never their property) The farmhouse therefore never got notification of the change of use or neighbour notification. Why would you do that, and is it legal... I'm baffled.

My hunch was right then. Joe90.... I'm not gonna lie. I actually had to zoom in on your pic.... Thought it was a real pic of you ?

Not likely to be invited for a brew. Not that way inclined. Shame really. If they didn't have access over the lane they wouldn't of been able to get the their build if anyone had complained about the access road they have built with out planning (head in hands) I truly have no issue with current status and set up. There's just something not sitting right. Why the agricultural use and not equestrian. I would just be happier if it was documented as it is used.

Thank you all for your replies. Should I respond to the planning application to state its only equestrian as opposed to mixed use? Thanks x

OK thanks

Humm not sure exactly how much land but more than 5 acres. Maybe that's why they hid the horses on the previous application to say had been empty? Yes I've no issue with current set up. More a concern over future conversion. It just made m e wobbly that they havnt submitted for the use, like there was another hidden agenda. Yes we own the lane but they do have access over. Although they don't use because they have built another drive to the new house. This was without planning do had to get retrospective on that too. There an issue with it too so if anyone came forward they would have to remove this drive. So as not to be an arse and ruin their whole plan we agreed they could have access. Otherwise they could of been in a position they couldn't get to their property. In hind sight though I'm thinking it was perhaps so they had seperate accesses to 2 properties in the future. In the deeds it does state their household however. Humm.

Yes we own the lane but they have access over it to thier property. The agricultural building has been built at the side of it next to our house.

Oh I agree, and I don't want to sound like a complete arse, because truly Im not like that and happy for it to be equestrian and used as they are doing. Which is why it makes me nervous they are not just submitting for the purpose. Feel something in my water haha. I would love to be friendly with them but alas they are not very friendly. 2 previous neighbours (only 3 house hamlet) moved and one had an injunction eekk. I just couldn't understand the push for agricultural. Its a new build constructed thus Summer and stables went stright in. So had no previous agricultural use.

I understand your thinking but why hide the horses? Why not submit for what you require?

Agreed so don't understand why down for agricultural use.

Im happy for them to have the horses there. I just know historically to get the permission for the the current dwelling the horse 'stuff' was all hidden away from inspection. I'm happy they got to do a build that doesn't affect me at all. The current barn is very large and was a new build for agriculture too. As soon as erected the American barn stables went in. Again absolutely fine by me. I just don't understand why they are reluctant to say it is equestrian use. It's now retrospectively gone in as mixed. The building is an exact replica of the one they have just converted. 17 roof lights etc.. I wouldn't be as happy with this converted as it would need to be accessed by our lane and very very close. So to clarify my concern is why not submit for equestrian? I may be over thinking...

It's right next to my house. And it will effect me certainly if converted. Why not put in for the use that it is? Absolutely no issue with it being equestrian. Don't understand the push for agricultural when it isn't

Morning all Please could you help advise us. We live in a property where the neighbour has coverted an agricultural building into a dwelling. When they were at planning stage they did their upper most to hide any evidence of the horses. I didn't think much of it at the time. They also put in for another agricultural building to be build. Exactly the same size and windows of the one they are currently converting. As soon as this was built american stables went in. The horses are stabled every night, rugged and fed and certainly kept for recreational purposes. The planning came un announced and said they would need retrospective planning for the horses. It has arrived today but states for mixed agricultural use and for the horses overnight. It doesn't say how many stables, where muck heap will be or that the land will need a change of use. Why are they so determined not to have as equestrian use? Does it make planning easier on an agricultural building in the future rather than stables? Is it to do with rates? We are happy for it to be classes as equestrian as thats what it is... I'm just concerned at the determination to avoid that by the owners. Why hide it? I would approach the neighbours but they are not approachable last neighbours had an injunction against them Thanks