Spike47

Hi Thanks for your reply , maybe I have confused the post a little , it is not really a basement , it is the room you come into from outside , but the lounge is upstairs , it is a 3 story building , the fire breast we want to remove has been put in at a later date and it is not supporting anything , it is just bricked up to the ceiling/floor joists . so the hearth in question is on the first floor , sorry for the confusion . cheers spike

Hi Thanks for your reply . But the timber form looks to be exactly the same has the original floor boards , and why would they chop out the center part of that form , second floor is just a open fire place . cheers spike

HiMy friend wants to pull down a fire breast in the basement , it is not the original , it is a brick built one , built around the original , have taken some bricks of to see if it is supporting anything and I am a bit puzzled has to what I am finding .Looking at the very top , it seems there is a concrete base base above it which looks like the fire hearth of the second floor fireplace !.The way I understand it is that there was some timber going across the top of the floor/Ceiling joists and that would of been the form to cast the concrete base for the second floor fire hearth ! .But it seems ( if I am correct ) that someone has chopped away part of that timber along with part of the Joist and stuck a couple of bricks from the new fire breast up to the concrete below the second floor hearth ! . I have no idea why someone would cut away the form for the hearth , then chock it with a couple bricks , it is making it difficult now to remove the breast , because I can not get anything in there to support before I remove them couple of bricks , then the whole fire breast !!Maybe the pics attached will explain it better meIt is quite a old 3 storey sand stone building The 2 bits of joist sticking out are just dummies , not doing anything .. The 2 bricks are only holding the second floor concrete hearth , nothing else , and the new breast is only bricked to just below the ceiling , it is not supporting anything at all .As I had said in my post , the breast we are wanting to remove is a new breast , the original breast is still there ( I think ) but it is not very deep and does not come out far enough to support under the concrere hearth ! .I just keep thinking why they would of chipped away the support form and a good part of the first joist , then stick a couple of bricks there , I just can't get it . Read more: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/second-floor-fireplace.522531/#ixzz5n80HYumrcheersspike Read more: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/second-floor-fireplace.522531/#ixzz5n7zssKxS cheers Spike