Jude1234 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I am now looking at finishing part of outside so I can get BC sign off (need the entrance to be wheelchair accessible ). I need a lot of material to bring up to floor level. Have read on here about tar planings that can be really cheap but how do I find them? And roughly what is a good price for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jude1234 said: I am now looking at finishing part of outside so I can get BC sign off (need the entrance to be wheelchair accessible ). I need a lot of material to bring up to floor level. Have read on here about tar planings that can be really cheap but how do I find them? And roughly what is a good price for them? Hi They are called road planings - if you're getting them in bulk, £7-10 / tonne delivered on 20 tonners is going rate around you. Give Carl Wright Haulage a call in Hucknall as they are usually shifting them 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, PeterW said: £7-10 / tonne delivered on 20 tonners is going rate +1 I have used quite a lot f plantings to repair my road, cheap and when “properly” compacted and tidied up will look presentable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 @Jude1234 as @Cpd says, compaction is the key and a whacker plate may not work so hire a roller for a weekend and you'll be fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 If there are any roadwork schemes going on near you call in and ask will they sell you a few loads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, PeterW said: @Jude1234 as @Cpd says, compaction is the key and a whacker plate may not work so hire a roller for a weekend and you'll be fine. I hired a drive on roller Droped at 8am Picked up at 12 £50 Great bit of kit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1234 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Thank you all. This site is amazing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1234 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, nod said: I hired a drive on roller Droped at 8am Picked up at 12 £50 Great bit of kit My OH will love that, men and their machines lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, Jude1234 said: My OH will love that, men and their machines lol Actually I say I hired WE hired I shuveld and my wife drove up and down for four hours She says that there are less polatics on a building site than in a office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, PeterW said: They are called road planings - if you're getting them in bulk, £7-10 / tonne delivered on 20 tonners is going rate around you. I tried to get some last week in mid Lincolnshire and there seems to be a shortage, have been offered 40 tons at £18 per ton or "call back in a few weeks and we might have some". One problem with road plannings is that they can get a bit smelly under direct sun light so I would not want to use them near a patio area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Declan52 said: If there are any roadwork schemes going on near you call in and ask will they sell you a few loads. I have been told that the downside of this option is that the plannings will be ungraded and will include some large lumpy bits, fine for a forest track but for a domestic door approach ramp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, PeterW said: @Jude1234 as @Cpd says, compaction is the key and a whacker plate may not work so hire a roller for a weekend and you'll be fine. If the OP is going to create an access ramp say 400mm high will the plannings lock together under compression like 2" clean hardcore or is there a risk the plannings will squelsh out sideways under a roller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Tend to find that planings become one big mass with enough compaction as the tar sticks the bits together. The trick is to compact properly - do it in layers and use a heavy roller not a whacker plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, epsilonGreedy said: I have been told that the downside of this option is that the plannings will be ungraded and will include some large lumpy bits, fine for a forest track but for a domestic door approach ramp? They will be fine. He is just using it as a cheap sub-base material. He says he needs lots so use cheap stuff. Roller it in going no more than 200mm at a time and it will compact and stay together lovely. Then top it with whatever you want for your finish, quarry dust and paving slabs for example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, epsilonGreedy said: If the OP is going to create an access ramp say 400mm high will the plannings lock together under compression like 2" clean hardcore or is there a risk the plannings will squelsh out sideways under a roller? What's the definition of "clean hard core"? Into any of mine I'll put: Brick Celcon Breeze Flints Roof tiles Ceramic, porcelain & quarry tiles Broken crockery Broken glass I avoid: Stuff I assume makes it "dirty": Timber, plastics, asbestos, rubble sacks, brick ties etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Onoff said: What's the definition of "clean hard core"? Just a term used in the aggregates industry to indicate the hardcore is comprised of a single graded size in contrast to something like MOT1 which is made up with a Ministry of Transport recipe of different sizes. I don't think the term indicates a hardcode contains dirty, toxic or recycled rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, PeterW said: Tend to find that planings become one big mass with enough compaction as the tar sticks the bits together. The trick is to compact properly - do it in layers and use a heavy roller not a whacker plate This explains why the last example I walked on had a slight springy feeling, it had been compacted with a whacker plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, epsilonGreedy said: I tried to get some last week in mid Lincolnshire and there seems to be a shortage, have been offered 40 tons at £18 per ton or "call back in a few weeks and we might have some". One problem with road plannings is that they can get a bit smelly under direct sun light so I would not want to use them near a patio area. That's a bit steep... Have you tried Brauncwell Quarry at Sleaford..? Other option is ring National at Wragby and find out where they are working locally. 1 minute ago, epsilonGreedy said: Just a term used in the aggregates industry to indicate the hardcore is comprised of a single graded size in contrast to something like MOT1 which is made up with a Ministry of Transport recipe of different sizes. I don't think the term indicates a hardcode contains dirty, toxic or recycled rubbish. MOT1 is just a grading - its basically 40mm to dust so anything that will go through a 40mm grid. There is a really good link to what is included here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, PeterW said: That's a bit steep... Have you tried Brauncwell Quarry at Sleaford..? Other option is ring National at Wragby and find out where they are working locally. Yes, me and my follow self builders postponed our site road resurfacing because the price. I wonder if at this time of year more road projects are for fiddly frost related pothole repair or other urgent surface restoration and then later in the Spring the industry veers towards scheduled remaking of miles or A road and motorway hence more plannings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Onoff said: What's the definition of "clean hard core"? Into any of mine I'll put: Brick Celcon Breeze Flints Roof tiles Ceramic, porcelain & quarry tiles Broken crockery Broken glass I avoid: Stuff I assume makes it "dirty": Timber, plastics, asbestos, rubble sacks, brick ties etc. So, clay and rock based things that do not float.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) I have used 40 odd tons of road plannings which I got near me for £4 per ton!I need another 20tons and guess what, they are surfacing the road outside our build and they will let me have them fir nothing if they can put some plant in my drive overnight ?(they have just had a load of plant nicked recently). They are great and if rollered well give a very solid base. Edited February 24, 2019 by joe90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplysimon Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 a light spray of red diesel just prior to rolling, especially on a hot day will help bind them all together as the diesel softens the tar. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Simplysimon said: light spray of red diesel just prior to rolling, especially on a hot day will help bind them all together as the diesel softens the tar. A great tip ! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1234 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 It isn't going to be the final layer I just wanted something cheap as I have to make up the external ground level to about 2 bricks in height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyL Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just been quoted £24 per tonne for plannings ...really?....missed out on about 3 months ago on nearby roads being done , didn't have anywhere to put them , now I need them and of course stupid prices ...anyone got any contacts for mid devon possibly north devon area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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