lizzie Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Not for me but for my nephew who is looking at buying a victorian terrace house and the rear garage appears to be asbestos erected in 1960’s we think.. Its sound but he may want to remove it, Anyone got any idea on cost of removal, its a single detached garage at the bottom of the garden and the access is easy via a rear shared driveway.Any help appreciated as he may have to review his offer price for the house. he is first time buyer and not a lot of cash to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Worth getting someone to identify what type it is, as there's a big difference in the way different types have to be handled. Is it made of corrugated sheets? If so then the chances are that it's made from asbestos cement, which is generally fairly easy to remove and dispose of, as long as it's not broken up to release fibres. It still needs dismantling with care, and treating as hazardous waste, but it isn't anywhere near as hazardous as some other forms of asbestos, mainly because the fibres are contained within the cement (as long as it's not broken up, cut, drilled etc). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Thanks @JSHarris not corrugated walls they are smooth. It hasnt come up on mortgage valuation but on a visit today it came up. Vendor is very tricky and not reasonable.....it was downvalued on mortgage val and has been work to get them to agree to meet on difference. If we start throwing in asbestos surveys now it will all be off. Nephew hysteria saying will it cost 15k which is what his mate has told him (mate is labourer on building site so must be knowledgable LOL), I guessed at about 2k but have no basis beyond gut feeling for that. This is a pic from rightmove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 As @JSHarris says there are different types and the type most commonly used in garages is chrysotile. It can be a DIY job for removal but you will need to dispose of it compliantly and that generally means it needs to be bagged or wrapped. Have a look on the LA's website for details of how your LA will accept it for disposal. DIY or not the key is to be extremely careful not to disturb the fibres and to wear masks and protective clothing. And to be safe remove clothes whilst still wearing the mask and wash immediately. Keep all kids etc. well away while the work is being done. https://www.armco.org.uk/asbestos-survey-news/how-to-remove-asbestos-from-a-shed-or-garage/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Thank you @newhome I have passed on the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundtuit Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 As above, potentially you can diy it, but disposal is a pain. To be on the safe side, I decided to get licensed professionals in to take down an old garage at our last place that had some sort of cement board walls. The guys who turned up to take it down were fully equipped with shorts, t-shirts and sunglasses as PPE.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Roundtuit said: As above, potentially you can diy it, but disposal is a pain. To be on the safe side, I decided to get licensed professionals in to take down an old garage at our last place that had some sort of cement board walls. The guys who turned up to take it down were fully equipped with shorts, t-shirts and sunglasses as PPE.... Sounds great ha ha.....am I a mile off in guessing at circa 2k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundtuit Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 From memory, about half of the (large single) garage walls were hollow panels of approx 1inch timber batons with 3mm asbestos cement boards fixed both sides. The rest of the garage was timber and rusty corrugated metal. It all went in a day, for about £600 plus vat I think, via two blokes, a chainsaw, sledgehammer and crowbar. And I swear, they were proper demolition contractors and licensed waste carriers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Roundtuit said: From memory, about half of the (large single) garage walls were hollow panels of approx 1inch timber batons with 3mm asbestos cement boards fixed both sides. The rest of the garage was timber and rusty corrugated metal. It all went in a day, for about £600 plus vat I think, via two blokes, a chainsaw, sledgehammer and crowbar. And I swear, they were proper demolition contractors and licensed waste carriers! Thank you thats great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Roundtuit said: And I swear, they were proper demolition contractors and licensed waste carriers! Proves how bloody dense some people are. When my hubby had mesothelioma (asbestos cancer) the electrician we had here was telling us that he had seen young men taking extreme risks with asbestos, including the more dangerous types. It’s one of those things that will never happen to them, a bit like smoking and lung cancer, but it’s a totally devastating disease if you are one of the unlucky ones. Having seen what it can do I would never feck about with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I used a testing kit bought from Amazon when I tested mine, which turned out to be Chrysotile. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Asbestos-Testing-Kit-Sample-protective/dp/B071ZN1W3W/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1550652477&sr=8-3&keywords=asbestos+test+kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 Thanks @PeterStarck that looks a useful bit of kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, lizzie said: Not for me but for my nephew who is looking at buying a victorian terrace house and the rear garage appears to be asbestos erected in 1960’s we think.. Its sound but he may want to remove it, Anyone got any idea on cost of removal, its a single detached garage at the bottom of the garden and the access is easy via a rear shared driveway.Any help appreciated as he may have to review his offer price for the house. he is first time buyer and not a lot of cash to spare. The numbers on here seem about right. If he wants the house, and not to get into the fandango of changing offers and going round the block again, he could just choose to race the garage as is for a few years and deal with it later when funds are available. it’s been there for decades, and sounds like one of the more benign types. If worried, which is probably not necessary, he could just fence it off. F Edited February 20, 2019 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) As light relief, my favourite asbestos moron story was the St Pauls’ Occupidiots from a few years ago (remember them?). After they were ejected from the grounds of St Paul’s Cathedral they occupied various other places, with consequences such as delaying social housing schemes by their presence, and then broke into and occupied an office building that was halfway through having its asbestos removed. Give them an advanced Darwin Award. They pulled the usual squatter ‘we did not break in’ arguments (no, we had a non-present friend who did it for us), but being sawdust-brained they had published a set of accounts “for transparency” which included one item itemised as “bolt cutters”. I love these people. Ferdinand Edited February 20, 2019 by Ferdinand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ferdinand said: The numbers on here seem about right. If he wants the house, and not to get into the fandango of changing offers and going round the block again, he could just choose to race the garage as is for a few years and deal with it later when funds are available. it’s been there for decades, and sounds like one of the more benign types. If worried, which is probably not necessary, he could just fence it off. F Thank you @Ferdinand thats sound advice. My advice was also don't mess with it or offer and we will sort it out down the line. He is in panic mode after the down val and having to find more £'s (from the bank of Aunt and Mum). he want to use it as woodworking workshop but he can wait a while for that. He is 23 and a superstar tree surgeon, works 7 days a week if he can, can't fault him on his work ethic so don't mind chipping in a bit but not bottomless and he knows that and is hugely upset to have to ask for help after working so hard to save for his house. I feel more comfortable about it myself now after all you guys good info as per. Thank you. Oh and if anyone needs tree work he is the man. Will be Cardiff based at new house (moving over from Hampshire) but will travel reasonable distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triassic Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Have a read of ths Health and Sefety Executive guidance document of dealing with concrete asbestos sheets. http://www.hse.gov.uk/pUbns/guidance/a14.pdf The biggest cost is in disposal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Like most things it can be safe if treated with respect. Those garages have been around for decades so fine to use as long as they don’t get damaged, no holes are drilled into them etc. There is still asbestos in the vast majority of older buildings including schools etc. It’s often more dangerous to remove the asbestos than to leave it sleeping. If your nephew wants to use the shed then he can but might be worth sealing any areas that look as if they may have been disturbed. There are specialist products that can be used for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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