Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Ok ! Had all these issues with the 2 UniFi AP u it’s so removed them . Today my up cameras don’t work as though the dns isn’t working . I go to the property login to the port forwarding page . Everything seems fine ; but 3 extra port forwarding rules have been added !!!! No one knows the router password though - and it’s none of the tenants. So how was it done ? Whilst fiddling with the AP units for days I factory reset them many times . It’s not possible from their default password to access the router somehow is it ? For now I’ve left the router as is - take my Mac there Monday when hopefully I have more understanding of how this was done. Any help appreciated cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 Also the culprit port forwarding rules are in a different colour - not sure of the relevance of that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Could a tenant's computer have, quite reasonably, added a port forward via UPnP? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I used to change the password on my BT router to curb my lad and next thing he'd hacked it. Gave up in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 30 minutes ago, Onoff said: I used to change the password on my BT router to curb my lad and next thing he'd hacked it. Gave up in the end. Did you change the admin password or just WiFi access ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Ed Davies said: Could a tenant's computer have, quite reasonably, added a port forward via UPnP? But they would need the router admin password - which of course isn’t the default . Also one of the port forwarding entries was for WhatsApp . Why add that when you access the WiFi anyway ? Another was labelled as ‘xbox’ - no one in house has an Xbox . Thing is I was in and out the port forwarding pages everyday whilst fiddling with cameras. Only went in today because they aren’t working . Does anyone know if it’s possible to login to a router remotely? E.g <global ip>192.168.1.254 / admin/ <password> So I can at least look at the hubs settings remotely... Edited February 2, 2019 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, pocster said: But they would need the router admin password - which of course isn’t the default Not as I understand UPnP. I'm a bit vague about it but my understanding is the point of it is to allow applications on computers, phones, etc, to open ports for access from outside. I wouldn't be at all surprised if WhatsApp uses it if it's available. 25 minutes ago, pocster said: Another was labelled as ‘xbox’ - no one in house has an Xbox . Yep, that's a bit more concerning. 26 minutes ago, pocster said: Does anyone know if it’s possible to login to a router remotely? Usually there's a setting in the router configuration to enable/disable this. I have a vague memory of some routers not being very good in that they allowed remote logins even when they were supposedly disabled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ed Davies said: Not as I understand UPnP. I'm a bit vague about it but my understanding is the point of it is to allow applications on computers, phones, etc, to open ports for access from outside. I wouldn't be at all surprised if WhatsApp uses it if it's available. Yep, that's a bit more concerning. Usually there's a setting in the router configuration to enable/disable this. I have a vague memory of some routers not being very good in that they allowed remote logins even when they were supposedly disabled. Yeah I'm not totally up with this. Need to do some more googling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) It appears that the router can add it's own port forwarding rules for such things as WhatsApp. So it's possible there is no unauthorised access. Be real nice though if the router firmware actually said "I ADDED THESE'! https://www.homenethowto.com/ports-and-nat/upnp-automatic-port-forward/ Edited February 2, 2019 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 This forum message says that the router log will show port forwards being set by UPnP. Might be worth a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, pocster said: Did you change the admin password or just WiFi access ? Admin password. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ed Davies said: This forum message says that the router log will show port forwards being set by UPnP. Might be worth a look. Excellent!. I'm up there Monday and will check that.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 Just now, Onoff said: Admin password. Go figure. Do you mean your router has the default username and password for login? - this is NOT the same as the Wifi password! 2 different things! Once you do have the admin login some routers allow schedules so you can block your son's mac address (mac is a unique code for a device ). Perhaps enable it when he's been good!. You will be in control. CONTROL = POWER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Which hub do you have? BT has manuals for quite a few. It'd be tedious to read all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Just now, pocster said: Do you mean your router has the default username and password for login? - this is NOT the same as the Wifi password! 2 different things! Once you do have the admin login some routers allow schedules so you can block your son's mac address (mac is a unique code for a device ). Perhaps enable it when he's been good!. You will be in control. CONTROL = POWER! I'll ask him when he's back from uni. It's black magic to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Onoff said: I'll ask him when he's back from uni. It's black magic to me. No ! Don’t ask him - he will know you are onto him !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, pocster said: No ! Don’t ask him - he will know you are onto him !!! FFS he's doing a computer science degree living and breathing the stuff with like minded nerds. Hacking is part of the course. He'll just hack the neighbour's wi-fi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Onoff said: FFS he's doing a computer science degree living and breathing the stuff with like minded nerds. Hacking is part of the course. He'll just hack the neighbour's wi-fi. Lol ! Take him on ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 Did @Onoff effectively call me a nerd ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue B Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, pocster said: Did @Onoff effectively call me a nerd ? I think that I definitely heard that . Does this lead to pistols at dawn ? Please, at least let him finish the bathroom first ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 34 minutes ago, pocster said: Did @Onoff effectively call me a nerd ? Gerd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Sue B said: I think that I definitely heard that . Does this lead to pistols at dawn ? Please, at least let him finish the bathroom first ? My pistols massive ! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue B Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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