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When your floating home cinema doesn't float your boat

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I would worry about the humidity from the pool damaging the AV equipment... never mind that it looks horrific.

 

 

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A little money spent on a 3D Skethup model might have shown the difference between that which the imagination can conjure and the looming oppressive reality revealed in the photo. 

 

Having just designed my house with an architect, I sympathise somewhat. I found it all too easy for the vision in my mind to be mistaken. Seeing a 3D render swiftly disabused me. The mind (or mine at least) is not very good at 3D. Humbling.

 

When I started, discovering that most architects still work in 2D amazed me. The adoption of 3D modelling seems to be behind-the-times in my experience.

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Looks like a classic case that illustrates the gulf between some architects and structural engineers.  It seems that some architects can only think in terms of an artistic concept, and assume that someone else can turn that into reality without changing their design.

 

We encountered something similar when we went around a few local practices to try and find an architect.  One sketched an initial concept that included glass all along the front elevation (which faces more or less South).  I asked how we were going to control excessive solar gain and he just shrugged and said something like  "Oh, the engineers will deal with that".

 

 

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How did that end up with "extra steelwork"? Was it just going to be on skyhooks before they realised that rooms covered in glass are quite heavy...

Big lesson in managing rich clients for the architect here, no doubt the guy's been rushed and only given minimal input by the client and now the client a wondering why he's not done his job properly - will be interesting to see how it pans out, his pi cover is about to rocket either way!!

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I wouldn't mind a "floating box" but that looks like it's sat on "goal posts".

 

The ideal would have been to have supported the box using hidden steels perpendicular to and instead of those goalposts. The stairs position might have compromised that idea. Failing that suspending the box from a hidden, up and over frame would have worked.

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16 minutes ago, JSHarris said:

Looks like a classic case that illustrates the gulf between some architects and structural engineers.  It seems that some architects can only think in terms of an artistic concept, and assume that someone else can turn that into reality without changing their design.

 

We encountered something similar when we went around a few local practices to try and find an architect.  One sketched an initial concept that included glass all along the front elevation (which faces more or less South).  I asked how we were going to control excessive solar gain and he just shrugged and said something like  "Oh, the engineers will deal with that".

 

 

 

This is the type of project where they should have been advised to get a good structural engineer on board at design stage but a lot of clients don't like spending money on consultant fees and leave things up to the builder to sort out, this thing looks badly conceived, detialled and built! Looks like blame all round (including the client!)

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I thought this was going to be a thread about a home cinema on a house boat that proved to be a little bit too heavy for the boat........

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Interesting how we all display our prejudices so openly.

 

For the avoidance of doubt, the client gets not even a shred of sympathy from me pure on the basis of what he does to steal a living.

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No one else made any comment as to what he does for a living. What else does he ‘deserve’ based on his Job? You may as well say that anyone earning a fairly high wage deserves no sympathy in that case. He will have paid lots of tax and spent a significant amount of money in the UK that goes to others either directly or indirectly. 

 

 

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Where these cases lose my sympathy is when you get statements like "demolition and complete rebuild is the only answer"

 

Er, no, there is nothing wrong with the rest of the pool complex, just the home cinema "box" so worst case rip that out and re design it.

 

I also agree it is a lousy environment for a home cinema anyway with all the humidity from a pool.

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43 minutes ago, newhome said:

No one else made any comment as to what he does for a living. What else does he ‘deserve’ based on his Job? You may as well say that anyone earning a fairly high wage deserves no sympathy in that case. He will have paid lots of tax and spent a significant amount of money in the UK that goes to others either directly or indirectly. 

 

 

 

 

Some of us who have worked in areas that are less than popular with some of the general public just get used to these sort of biased comments. 

 

I've a feeling that my former place of work was the reason I was removed from another forum and then sent a tirade of offensive emails from an animal right extremist closely associated with it, for example.  I'd not revealed publicly where I worked (for obvious reasons), I'd only mentioned it in passing in a PM exchange between two other members.  Our collective guess is that the forum owner read the PMs and chose to take action on an ethical standpoint, by first editing some of my posts to reverse the meaning of them, then using those edited posts as a reason to exclude me. 

 

The fact that I'd never worked in the labs at the place in question, and had a specialism that was far removed from the one that earned the place a bit of a reputation, was neither here nor there - summary "justice" without allowing me to say anything at all was metered out.  Mind you, that's trivial compared with having to go out with a mirror on a stick and torch every morning to see if the animal rights nutters have stuck a bomb under either of our cars overnight -  did that for years, and had to carry on doing it long after I'd retired.  Daft really, as I've never, ever worked anywhere near a lab that performed any animal testing in my whole career.

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37 minutes ago, newhome said:

No one else made any comment as to what he does for a living. What else does he ‘deserve’ based on his Job? You may as well say that anyone earning a fairly high wage deserves no sympathy in that case. He will have paid lots of tax and spent a significant amount of money in the UK that goes to others either directly or indirectly. 

 

 

But most people slated the architect :/

 

and ‘trickle down’, lol.

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Come on it is quite a good feeling of schadenfreude. I cannot see how this would ever have looked OK. Idiots.

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27 minutes ago, Mr Punter said:

Come on it is quite a good feeling of schadenfreude. I cannot see how this would ever have looked OK. Idiots.

 

Yep, my thoughts too. I know design is all a matter of personal taste but how was that ever going to fit into what looks like a fairly traditional house? Even the staircase looks much more in keeping with the original room than the glass box it is there to serve. 

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Making errors is one of my strengths. If I ever use bombast to try and hide my errors, will someone please take me aside and tell me? Thanks.

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Anyone else notice the glass is too tall so the corners dig into the ceiling?

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1 hour ago, Temp said:

Anyone else notice the glass is too tall so the corners dig into the ceiling?

 

Yes that looks (even more) terrible doesn't it, and that bit has (presumably) not been finished yet either.  

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