Ed_MK Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Hi, I am about to purchase my internal doors they are all solid "cottage style doors" ...you know the ones with an oak veneer like these: https://www.travisperkins.co.uk/Hardwood-Oak-Suffolk-Internal-Door-1981mm-x-838mm-x-35mm/p/480461?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr6qNpObz3gIVD53tCh0hbg1DEAQYBCABEgJDtfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Now my joiner has asked me do any have to be "fire rated" ..I have ploughed through the building regs and I am a little confused (its usual) some bits seem to suggest that its only over 2 stories or garages or something some other sites refer to FD30 and FD60 and special door linings... some say 35mm cant be fire rated and i should go for 44mm I do WANT to make it a safe job, as we are nearing a build though... money is tight and I dont want to fit £200 doors that would shield the space shuttle if i dont have to ....well not in all doorways anyway ! I dont have many doors downstairs as it is open plan ...just lounge, a small wc and utility really but upstairs there are bedroom and bathrooms, en-suite etc I suppose there are 2 questions .... a) what is the legal requirement? b) would you go above and beyond in certain rooms ..just to be safe? I have spent so much time making sure that any insulation is fire rated, and made sure that cavities, breaks and battens are all done well and doubled up where i could..so i dont want to skimp on places where it really matters ..if you get me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Ed_MK said: Hi, I am about to purchase my internal doors they are all solid "cottage style doors" ...you know the ones with an oak veneer like these: https://www.travisperkins.co.uk/Hardwood-Oak-Suffolk-Internal-Door-1981mm-x-838mm-x-35mm/p/480461?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr6qNpObz3gIVD53tCh0hbg1DEAQYBCABEgJDtfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Now my joiner has asked me do any have to be "fire rated" ..I have ploughed through the building regs and I am a little confused (its usual) some bits seem to suggest that its only over 2 stories or garages or something some other sites refer to FD30 and FD60 and special door linings... some say 35mm cant be fire rated and i should go for 44mm I do WANT to make it a safe job, as we are nearing a build though... money is tight and I dont want to fit £200 doors that would shield the space shuttle if i dont have to ....well not in all doorways anyway ! I dont have many doors downstairs as it is open plan ...just lounge, a small wc and utility really but upstairs there are bedroom and bathrooms, en-suite etc I suppose there are 2 questions .... a) what is the legal requirement? b) would you go above and beyond in certain rooms ..just to be safe? I have spent so much time making sure that any insulation is fire rated, and made sure that cavities, breaks and battens are all done well and doubled up where i could..so i dont want to skimp on places where it really matters ..if you get me You are correct over two story and into an integral garage Is a b R requirement So you should be ok to put whatever type of door on When a fire door is required it’s normall marked clearly on your drawing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivienz Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I have ground and first floor plus attached garage. The only fire rated door required is between the utility and the garage and it's an FD30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Get the joiner to check Howdens as they have their oak doors at around £60 at the moment. Also do an FD30 in the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvincentd Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 To act as a fire door it has to be closed! The only door in our house we ever close is the front door. I wouldn't go putting them where they aren't 'required' therefore.....and where they are required that requirement extends to them needing to have an auto-closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, mvincentd said: and where they are required that requirement extends to them needing to have an auto-closer. So that was removed from the Building Regs last revision for some reason ....! I’ve added intumescent strips to frames more recently at the request of the BCO. In the big scheme of things they aren’t expensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvincentd Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 ah, that explains why its possible to buy a pre hung fire door set that doesn't include one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 The old Perko type closers were dangerous door slammers. Normally removed by the first occupant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Exactly. AIUI, BCOs got to know individual door closers as they moved from house to house being signed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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