zoothorn Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 Alot of cupboard refettling this one. I wanted to shift them up 5", as I hate it when they're low/ as often I see this in kitchens, much better just hop on a stool to get to upper shelves IMO: makes better use of smallish space, & light too- the 2 hood lamps fall right across tops L to R. so I had to dismantle cupboard (as socket @ top of c'board now clashed) refaffed xyz/ jigsawed out recess.. now socket's in cab's upper shelf area. Neater. These bulbs tho.. halogen 50w, bloody ferociously hot: I'm surprised no warning or cage around, a kid could easily burn fingers. Too much power. What are the options re bulbs? If I use as general kitchen lights, as looks great/ I tend to do, I must be pouring in ££ if they're so hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 You can likely replace the bulbs with LED equivalents. What are they, GU10s? Take a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 Yes they look like gu10 from pics on www. Aren't led types all that horrible blue/ cold light tho? these may be too bright & too hot but the colour temp is right for indoors, in my opinion being just 'normal/ warm'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 You can get cool white, blue effect, or warm white, more yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, zoothorn said: Yes they look like gu10 from pics on www. Aren't led types all that horrible blue/ cold light tho? these may be too bright & too hot but the colour temp is right for indoors, in my opinion being just 'normal/ warm'. You can get warm white or cool white LED GU10s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 Aha ok I didn't know this. So what would be the equivalent say to halogen 40w, in led terms.. or is it same-? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, zoothorn said: Aha ok I didn't know this. So what would be the equivalent say to halogen 40w, in led terms.. or is it same-? An LED will be about a 1/10 wattage wise. If you like the light the existing bulbs give then find the spec and look for the same lumens (lm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 Ok will look into lumens.. last on list to do actually. Now whats the best idea re. stages: new lino next > skirting can sit right down onto it.. or skirting next > then lino to butt up against (or should it slide under?) & can new lino be laid ontop of old? Im thinking would old stuff might be of benefit/ making 2x thick as it were.. plus leaving it means all the black gubbins not exposed underneath: I think a very hard graft job to scrape this off. thanks zoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) That'll do for now.. Edited December 22, 2018 by zoothorn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Looks great - when are you starting on your bathroom as @Onoff will have some catching up to do ...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, PeterW said: Looks great - when are you starting on your bathroom as @Onoff will have some catching up to do ...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Looks good! Are you painting the doors or leaving them natural? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 (Assuming newhome's com is re. my oak cabinet doors).. will paint them all cream, these sides left as is alas cos placcy effect (plus 18x new 'rustic' black handles) but last on kitchen list, as non essential. which means done slooow like by mid next year prolly! Crikey I feel sorry for Onoff's family.. that knock-thru looks a recent afterthought! once I'm done I'll look thru that thread.. but can't cope doing 2 whopper threads at a time my brain will overload. Anyone done their own lino before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Yeah plenty of times. A sharp Stanley knife and plenty of patience is all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Yep meant the cabinet doors. @Onoff will likely have done lino since he never gets anyone in to do anything. He's the most full on DIY person I know lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Lino...been there, done that, though SWMBO usually does it. Plenty of vids on YouTube. Use cardboard for templates around tricky bits. I have before, for small areas like a bathroom actually laid a full lining paper/pizza box/Cornflakes packet pattern in the room to be done all held together with duct tape. I've then rolled out the lino in a bigger room and laid the pattern out Sellotaped on. Make a few diagonal checks. Draw round with a Sharpie and cut with decent bfo upholstery scissors...but that's just me! Professionals I think just push it against the wall with a metal straight edge and cut with a Stanley. They're incredibly quick too, like lightning fast. If you do the skirting afterwards you have 1/2" of leeway to screw up and be able to hide it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I actually laid Lino in a kitchen before. Wasn’t that hard, just fiddly. I roughly cut it to begin with to the rough size / shape and trimmed it off afterwards as the kitchen was a faffy shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue B Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Onoff said: I have before, for small areas like a bathroom actually laid a full lining paper/pizza box/Cornflakes packet pattern in the room to be done all held together with duct tape. I've then rolled out the lino in a bigger room and laid the pattern out Sellotaped on. Make a few diagonal checks. Draw round with a Sharpie and cut with decent bfo upholstery scissors...but that's just me! I have a friend who did just that. Unfortunately he then put the template on the vinyl back, not the top. A beautifully cut piece of vinyl that fitted wonderfully, if you wanted to see the back not the pattern. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 16 hours ago, PeterW said: Looks great - when are you starting on your bathroom as @Onoff will have some catching up to do ...! Thanks 16 hours ago, PeterW said: Looks great - when are you starting on your bathroom as @Onoff will have some catching up to do ...! Thanks Peter- what a huge difference.. the tops (best buy- worked out just fab, small bow again but kept in check I think), the tiles, cleanliness, more open feel/ more space. Thank goodness bathroom I did last year.. a fairly good blitz job, with minor mistakes (wish Id known this site then..) but no pB, or bigass holes! cheers & happy christmas to you guys. Zoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just arranged for my parents kitchen and bathroom to be done in lino. Cheapest of the cheap. No underlay, no surface prep against the shops advice but it'll (sadly) very likely outlast them. House built circa 1960 so those old square (bitumen bedded?) tiles like a chess board. SWMBO went over to let the bloke in. Reckons he was pretty much seconds rather than minutes fitting it. Said the left him in the kitchen and walked through to the lounge. No sooner had she sat down than the guy appeared and she thought he needed something from his van, not that he was done! Tidy job too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, zoothorn said: cheers & happy christmas to you guys. Zoot Merry Christmas to you too. What's next then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 11 hours ago, Sue B said: I have a friend who did just that. Unfortunately he then put the template on the vinyl back, not the top. A beautifully cut piece of vinyl that fitted wonderfully, if you wanted to see the back not the pattern. I'm with him! I spent more time doing -exactly- this hand-cutting 3 tiles into 'L' shapes, for the plug sockets. I made card templates, marked the back (for some reason) 1,2,3. Meticulous prep. so much care. Had a cuppa/ snooze. About 2 hours in cutting the 3rd, I thought a good idea just to check/ offered 1st up.. I mean as if I needed to after my huAge prep. Then my roof almost came off. I had to go outside to stomp & wail in misery- which set the dogs off 4 doors up. You're allowed to put TerryFkwit up here (so long as he's got a crimbo hat on!). I'll consider trying the lino then if its a feasable diy job- I know the lino chap who might have some old cr*p I could do a trial run with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 A lesson I've gradually learned: lay things out to be cut oriented towards where they'll eventually fit so you can visualize the move into the right place, a simple slide along or rotation upwards or whatever. That way errors like mirror images or measuring the wrong way will be more immediately obvious, ideally as you mark up rather than as you cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Actually there is one Q before I sign off: my old folks' recently had a new simple small washbasin replacement, but no pedestal. not one there before either. looks nasty all pipes showing etc. How can I fit one to be correct heightwise if basin was just plonked into same spot old one was, let alone the right curve to fit the underside-? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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